Paulding politics in the news...again.

[ShoeDiva]

This was nothing more than a vindictive fishing expedition designed to dig up dirt on commercialization opponents.
When they got caught using the taxpayers dime, they made up this extortion ruse to cover up their malfeasance.

Jones should be facing criminal charges for filing false police reports...

:dunno Why are you are saying this is a fishing expedition on anti people?

It is painfully obvious and the only logical explanation.

Um, yeah, okay. Great explanation.

It ain't rocket science.


:whistle

Obviously it is, if you are unwilling or unable to explain your answer. Just saying.

 

[ShoeDiva]

One example they used on TV was Patricia Barnett who's only connection was attendance at a couple of BOC meetings and lives in the airport path. I haven't seen the whole list (clearly, no one has since the other company used hasn't responded), and I haven't seen a complete list from the company that did respond, but the implication has been that the checks were done on airport opponents.

The implications being Russell's report? Is this Patricia Barnett a vocal opponent to the airport? I, personally, have not seen or heard her name before. I was lead to believe that some of the names (of those released) were of people that Jones did have dealings with/knows and are not affiliated with the airport issue. Is that not correct?
Thank you for responding with an actual answer. It is appreciated!

 

[ShoeDiva]

I really wish that Sheriff Gulledge would ask the FBI to investigate. he can't do it properly without the appearance of some kind of conflict of interest regardless of the outcome. But bottom line, somebody needs to investigate the entire matter, including the $50k deal between Austin and Jones. I would really like to see somebody do jail time for their wrongdoings. I'm tired of the crap in this county. I really am looking forward to eventually moving to the mountains where the biggest bruhaha is about who pays for a 500 ft water line extension, what date to open the cannery, and how much to donate to the 4H and the volunteer fire department. This place here reminds me of Boss Hog and his gang of merry idiots.

I know that there are many things many of us dislike and do not agree on when it comes to the county, but what illegal wrongdoings are we speaking of that would involve actual jail time?

 

[ShoeDiva]

A post popped up on my news feed that there is more information tonight with Dale Russell. Maybe that will have more answers.

 

[lotstodo]

I really wish that Sheriff Gulledge would ask the FBI to investigate. he can't do it properly without the appearance of some kind of conflict of interest regardless of the outcome. But bottom line, somebody needs to investigate the entire matter, including the $50k deal between Austin and Jones. I would really like to see somebody do jail time for their wrongdoings. I'm tired of the crap in this county. I really am looking forward to eventually moving to the mountains where the biggest bruhaha is about who pays for a 500 ft water line extension, what date to open the cannery, and how much to donate to the 4H and the volunteer fire department. This place here reminds me of Boss Hog and his gang of merry idiots.

I know that there are many things many of us dislike and do not agree on when it comes to the county, but what illegal wrongdoings are we speaking of that would involve actual jail time?

Do you think it is legal for the chairman to give his buddy a $50k gift when he finds out he is going to have to quit his job to avoid potential prosecution for using government resources on a personal vendetta? I don't, and I'm reasonably certain that any real investigation would find both of those things to have occurred. That's why we need an investigation, you know to uncover the facts.

 

[Madea]

One example they used on TV was Patricia Barnett who's only connection was attendance at a couple of BOC meetings and lives in the airport path. I haven't seen the whole list (clearly, no one has since the other company used hasn't responded), and I haven't seen a complete list from the company that did respond, but the implication has been that the checks were done on airport opponents.

The implications being Russell's report? Is this Patricia Barnett a vocal opponent to the airport? I, personally, have not seen or heard her name before. I was lead to believe that some of the names (of those released) were of people that Jones did have dealings with/knows and are not affiliated with the airport issue. Is that not correct?
Thank you for responding with an actual answer. It is appreciated!

Russell's report and other folks on Facebook (folks who are known opponents to the airport commercialization). But, no, Patricia Barnett is not a vocal opponent to the airport. As indicated, her only "crime" is living in the path. There is a "list" of folks in the path. I'd like to be able to compare that list with the list of folks who were targeted with background checks. I'm not sure, and have not heard, who (other than Jones) is making claims that the folks who were checked are known associates. As of today, there is no known association between Barnett and Jones. My personal summation, with what I know now, is Jones was checking out the "competition" (for lack of a better word) and the entire extortion story is a ruse. Funny, he doesn't indicate denying any of the claims of the "extortionist", including the allusion to .5 million in off shore accounts.

 

[ShoeDiva]

I really wish that Sheriff Gulledge would ask the FBI to investigate. he can't do it properly without the appearance of some kind of conflict of interest regardless of the outcome. But bottom line, somebody needs to investigate the entire matter, including the $50k deal between Austin and Jones. I would really like to see somebody do jail time for their wrongdoings. I'm tired of the crap in this county. I really am looking forward to eventually moving to the mountains where the biggest bruhaha is about who pays for a 500 ft water line extension, what date to open the cannery, and how much to donate to the 4H and the volunteer fire department. This place here reminds me of Boss Hog and his gang of merry idiots.

I know that there are many things many of us dislike and do not agree on when it comes to the county, but what illegal wrongdoings are we speaking of that would involve actual jail time?

Do you think it is legal for the chairman to give his buddy a $50k gift when he finds out he is going to have to quit his job to avoid potential prosecution for using government resources on a personal vendetta? I don't, and I'm reasonably certain that any real investigation would find both of those things to have occurred. That's why we need an investigation, you know to uncover the facts.

Well, to be honest, I am unsure of what is just wrong and what is actually illegal. I do not believe he should have used the company accounts for his personal use, though I do believe many people do things of that nature. (Use stuff available to them on company time.) I do not know if that would have been an offense with the county that would have caused termination or just a write up and having to pay back fees since it was on a per person fee basis. I have heard that Jones was leaving prior to some of this and was offered the consult job because his work was liked. I have also heard that it was just basically a "gift" from others, though if he is working for the county the money would be earned. I do not know, but I do not see illegal, but that is why I was asking.
This whole thing has just become insane, all starting because of the airport. Do I think the FBI needs to investigate? No, I actually think they have better and more urgent things to handle, but that is just my opinion.

 

[lotstodo]

I really wish that Sheriff Gulledge would ask the FBI to investigate. he can't do it properly without the appearance of some kind of conflict of interest regardless of the outcome. But bottom line, somebody needs to investigate the entire matter, including the $50k deal between Austin and Jones. I would really like to see somebody do jail time for their wrongdoings. I'm tired of the crap in this county. I really am looking forward to eventually moving to the mountains where the biggest bruhaha is about who pays for a 500 ft water line extension, what date to open the cannery, and how much to donate to the 4H and the volunteer fire department. This place here reminds me of Boss Hog and his gang of merry idiots.

I know that there are many things many of us dislike and do not agree on when it comes to the county, but what illegal wrongdoings are we speaking of that would involve actual jail time?

Do you think it is legal for the chairman to give his buddy a $50k gift when he finds out he is going to have to quit his job to avoid potential prosecution for using government resources on a personal vendetta? I don't, and I'm reasonably certain that any real investigation would find both of those things to have occurred. That's why we need an investigation, you know to uncover the facts.

Well, to be honest, I am unsure of what is just wrong and what is actually illegal. I do not believe he should have used the company accounts for his personal use, though I do believe many people do things of that nature. (Use stuff available to them on company time.) I do not know if that would have been an offense with the county that would have caused termination or just a write up and having to pay back fees since it was on a per person fee basis. I have heard that Jones was leaving prior to some of this and was offered the consult job because his work was liked. I have also heard that it was just basically a "gift" from others, though if he is working for the county the money would be earned. I do not know, but I do not see illegal, but that is why I was asking.
This whole thing has just become insane, all starting because of the airport. Do I think the FBI needs to investigate? No, I actually think they have better and more urgent things to handle, but that is just my opinion.

You don't want to know the truth? I certainly do. I'm very concerned that my tax dollars may have been used illegally to benefit a single person.

 

[ShoeDiva]

The implications being Russell's report? Is this Patricia Barnett a vocal opponent to the airport? I, personally, have not seen or heard her name before. I was lead to believe that some of the names (of those released) were of people that Jones did have dealings with/knows and are not affiliated with the airport issue. Is that not correct?
Thank you for responding with an actual answer. It is appreciated!

Russell's report and other folks on Facebook (folks who are known opponents to the airport commercialization). But, no, Patricia Barnett is not a vocal opponent to the airport. As indicated, her only "crime" is living in the path. There is a "list" of folks in the path. I'd like to be able to compare that list with the list of folks who were targeted with background checks. I'm not sure, and have not heard, who (other than Jones) is making claims that the folks who were checked are known associates. As of today, there is no known association between Barnett and Jones. My personal summation, with what I know now, is Jones was checking out the "competition" (for lack of a better word) and the entire extortion story is a ruse. Funny, he doesn't indicate denying any of the claims of the "extortionist", including the allusion to .5 million in off shore accounts.

Gotcha. I did hear my information on some of the people listed from those that are friends with the pro airport campaign. I do hope that the claim is not a ruse, and I thought there was info that it was not? Though I do agree on the fact that this account has not been brought up, by either side. That is the most interesting part of this whole thing if you ask me. :drunkdiva

 

[ShoeDiva]

I really wish that Sheriff Gulledge would ask the FBI to investigate. he can't do it properly without the appearance of some kind of conflict of interest regardless of the outcome. But bottom line, somebody needs to investigate the entire matter, including the $50k deal between Austin and Jones. I would really like to see somebody do jail time for their wrongdoings. I'm tired of the crap in this county. I really am looking forward to eventually moving to the mountains where the biggest bruhaha is about who pays for a 500 ft water line extension, what date to open the cannery, and how much to donate to the 4H and the volunteer fire department. This place here reminds me of Boss Hog and his gang of merry idiots.

I know that there are many things many of us dislike and do not agree on when it comes to the county, but what illegal wrongdoings are we speaking of that would involve actual jail time?

Do you think it is legal for the chairman to give his buddy a $50k gift when he finds out he is going to have to quit his job to avoid potential prosecution for using government resources on a personal vendetta? I don't, and I'm reasonably certain that any real investigation would find both of those things to have occurred. That's why we need an investigation, you know to uncover the facts.

Well, to be honest, I am unsure of what is just wrong and what is actually illegal. I do not believe he should have used the company accounts for his personal use, though I do believe many people do things of that nature. (Use stuff available to them on company time.) I do not know if that would have been an offense with the county that would have caused termination or just a write up and having to pay back fees since it was on a per person fee basis. I have heard that Jones was leaving prior to some of this and was offered the consult job because his work was liked. I have also heard that it was just basically a "gift" from others, though if he is working for the county the money would be earned. I do not know, but I do not see illegal, but that is why I was asking.
This whole thing has just become insane, all starting because of the airport. Do I think the FBI needs to investigate? No, I actually think they have better and more urgent things to handle, but that is just my opinion.

You don't want to know the truth? I certainly do. I'm very concerned that my tax dollars may have been used illegally to benefit a single person.

I am more concerned with the thousands in lawsuits we are paying and I see no end to. :faint

 

[lotstodo]

I really wish that Sheriff Gulledge would ask the FBI to investigate. he can't do it properly without the appearance of some kind of conflict of interest regardless of the outcome. But bottom line, somebody needs to investigate the entire matter, including the $50k deal between Austin and Jones. I would really like to see somebody do jail time for their wrongdoings. I'm tired of the crap in this county. I really am looking forward to eventually moving to the mountains where the biggest bruhaha is about who pays for a 500 ft water line extension, what date to open the cannery, and how much to donate to the 4H and the volunteer fire department. This place here reminds me of Boss Hog and his gang of merry idiots.

I know that there are many things many of us dislike and do not agree on when it comes to the county, but what illegal wrongdoings are we speaking of that would involve actual jail time?

Do you think it is legal for the chairman to give his buddy a $50k gift when he finds out he is going to have to quit his job to avoid potential prosecution for using government resources on a personal vendetta? I don't, and I'm reasonably certain that any real investigation would find both of those things to have occurred. That's why we need an investigation, you know to uncover the facts.

Well, to be honest, I am unsure of what is just wrong and what is actually illegal. I do not believe he should have used the company accounts for his personal use, though I do believe many people do things of that nature. (Use stuff available to them on company time.) I do not know if that would have been an offense with the county that would have caused termination or just a write up and having to pay back fees since it was on a per person fee basis. I have heard that Jones was leaving prior to some of this and was offered the consult job because his work was liked. I have also heard that it was just basically a "gift" from others, though if he is working for the county the money would be earned. I do not know, but I do not see illegal, but that is why I was asking.
This whole thing has just become insane, all starting because of the airport. Do I think the FBI needs to investigate? No, I actually think they have better and more urgent things to handle, but that is just my opinion.

You don't want to know the truth? I certainly do. I'm very concerned that my tax dollars may have been used illegally to benefit a single person.

I am more concerned with the thousands in lawsuits we are paying and I see no end to. :faint

I would be concerned with frivolous lawsuits. I don't find these to be frivolous. The courts are the next to last resort to force the government to act within the law.

 

[ShoeDiva]

I really wish that Sheriff Gulledge would ask the FBI to investigate. he can't do it properly without the appearance of some kind of conflict of interest regardless of the outcome. But bottom line, somebody needs to investigate the entire matter, including the $50k deal between Austin and Jones. I would really like to see somebody do jail time for their wrongdoings. I'm tired of the crap in this county. I really am looking forward to eventually moving to the mountains where the biggest bruhaha is about who pays for a 500 ft water line extension, what date to open the cannery, and how much to donate to the 4H and the volunteer fire department. This place here reminds me of Boss Hog and his gang of merry idiots.

I know that there are many things many of us dislike and do not agree on when it comes to the county, but what illegal wrongdoings are we speaking of that would involve actual jail time?

Do you think it is legal for the chairman to give his buddy a $50k gift when he finds out he is going to have to quit his job to avoid potential prosecution for using government resources on a personal vendetta? I don't, and I'm reasonably certain that any real investigation would find both of those things to have occurred. That's why we need an investigation, you know to uncover the facts.

Well, to be honest, I am unsure of what is just wrong and what is actually illegal. I do not believe he should have used the company accounts for his personal use, though I do believe many people do things of that nature. (Use stuff available to them on company time.) I do not know if that would have been an offense with the county that would have caused termination or just a write up and having to pay back fees since it was on a per person fee basis. I have heard that Jones was leaving prior to some of this and was offered the consult job because his work was liked. I have also heard that it was just basically a "gift" from others, though if he is working for the county the money would be earned. I do not know, but I do not see illegal, but that is why I was asking.
This whole thing has just become insane, all starting because of the airport. Do I think the FBI needs to investigate? No, I actually think they have better and more urgent things to handle, but that is just my opinion.

You don't want to know the truth? I certainly do. I'm very concerned that my tax dollars may have been used illegally to benefit a single person.

I am more concerned with the thousands in lawsuits we are paying and I see no end to. :faint

I would be concerned with frivolous lawsuits. I don't find these to be frivolous. The courts are the next to last resort to force the government to act within the law.

I would have to say we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Madea]

The implications being Russell's report? Is this Patricia Barnett a vocal opponent to the airport? I, personally, have not seen or heard her name before. I was lead to believe that some of the names (of those released) were of people that Jones did have dealings with/knows and are not affiliated with the airport issue. Is that not correct?
Thank you for responding with an actual answer. It is appreciated!

Russell's report and other folks on Facebook (folks who are known opponents to the airport commercialization). But, no, Patricia Barnett is not a vocal opponent to the airport. As indicated, her only "crime" is living in the path. There is a "list" of folks in the path. I'd like to be able to compare that list with the list of folks who were targeted with background checks. I'm not sure, and have not heard, who (other than Jones) is making claims that the folks who were checked are known associates. As of today, there is no known association between Barnett and Jones. My personal summation, with what I know now, is Jones was checking out the "competition" (for lack of a better word) and the entire extortion story is a ruse. Funny, he doesn't indicate denying any of the claims of the "extortionist", including the allusion to .5 million in off shore accounts.

Gotcha. I did hear my information on some of the people listed from those that are friends with the pro airport campaign. I do hope that the claim is not a ruse, and I thought there was info that it was not? Though I do agree on the fact that this account has not been brought up, by either side. That is the most interesting part of this whole thing if you ask me. :drunkdiva

It is very interesting to me. If I were to text you anonymously that if you didn't pay me $38,000 (odd amount, btw) I was going to tell your wife/husband that you had an offshore account worth 1/2 million, you would either a) make plans to meet me immediately (if you did indeed have a secret account that you would want to remain secret) or b) laugh hysterically and say, fine tell on me.

I found his "what are you offering" response quite odd. (Unless that's his odd sense of humor and way of laughing hysterically). But, you can't extort from someone who has nothing to hide.

 

[stradial]

The implications being Russell's report? Is this Patricia Barnett a vocal opponent to the airport? I, personally, have not seen or heard her name before. I was lead to believe that some of the names (of those released) were of people that Jones did have dealings with/knows and are not affiliated with the airport issue. Is that not correct?
Thank you for responding with an actual answer. It is appreciated!

Russell's report and other folks on Facebook (folks who are known opponents to the airport commercialization). But, no, Patricia Barnett is not a vocal opponent to the airport. As indicated, her only "crime" is living in the path. There is a "list" of folks in the path. I'd like to be able to compare that list with the list of folks who were targeted with background checks. I'm not sure, and have not heard, who (other than Jones) is making claims that the folks who were checked are known associates. As of today, there is no known association between Barnett and Jones. My personal summation, with what I know now, is Jones was checking out the "competition" (for lack of a better word) and the entire extortion story is a ruse. Funny, he doesn't indicate denying any of the claims of the "extortionist", including the allusion to .5 million in off shore accounts.

Gotcha. I did hear my information on some of the people listed from those that are friends with the pro airport campaign. I do hope that the claim is not a ruse, and I thought there was info that it was not? Though I do agree on the fact that this account has not been brought up, by either side. That is the most interesting part of this whole thing if you ask me. :drunkdiva

It is very interesting to me. If I were to text you anonymously that if you didn't pay me $38,000 (odd amount, btw) I was going to tell your wife/husband that you had an offshore account worth 1/2 million, you would either a) make plans to meet me immediately (if you did indeed have a secret account that you would want to remain secret) or b) laugh hysterically and say, fine tell on me.

I found his "what are you offering" response quite odd. (Unless that's his odd sense of humor and way of laughing hysterically). But, you can't extort from someone who has nothing to hide.

Here's a thought.
What actual proof is there that there is an actual person who tried to extort money from Mr. Jones?
Like you said, hard to hold something over someone's head, when there is nothing to hold.

I have to wonder if Mr. Jones was behind those "extortion" texts himself.
Perhaps he felt he needed an hour excuse in case it came out be was running checks with county funds, on county time, on whoever he wanted to.
Remember, the background checks started before the supposed extortion.

 

[ShoeDiva]

It is very interesting to me. If I were to text you anonymously that if you didn't pay me $38,000 (odd amount, btw) I was going to tell your wife/husband that you had an offshore account worth 1/2 million, you would either a) make plans to meet me immediately (if you did indeed have a secret account that you would want to remain secret) or b) laugh hysterically and say, fine tell on me.

I found his "what are you offering" response quite odd. (Unless that's his odd sense of humor and way of laughing hysterically). But, you can't extort from someone who has nothing to hide.

I would ask you for the number to the account! )

I do get that his response was weird. Unless he does have an off shore account, or more likely that he has something to hide in reference to business trips.

 

[ShoeDiva]

Here's a thought.
What actual proof is there that there is an actual person who tried to extort money from Mr. Jones?
Like you said, hard to hold something over someone's head, when there is nothing to hold.

I have to wonder if Mr. Jones was behind those "extortion" texts himself.
Perhaps he felt he needed an hour excuse in case it came out be was running checks with county funds, on county time, on whoever he wanted to.
Remember, the background checks started before the supposed extortion.

I thought he had the texts and it was traced to a different phone and he was not in the area of the phone when the texts came? Then they were able to trace that number back to the location it was purchased, though they obtained wrong footage of the purchase. (I am asking because it is hard to keep up, especially since it is only on my radar when things like this pop up.) Unless you mean him being behind it, as his idea and he had someone text him and tell them what to say.

 

[stradial]

It is very interesting to me. If I were to text you anonymously that if you didn't pay me $38,000 (odd amount, btw) I was going to tell your wife/husband that you had an offshore account worth 1/2 million, you would either a) make plans to meet me immediately (if you did indeed have a secret account that you would want to remain secret) or b) laugh hysterically and say, fine tell on me.

I found his "what are you offering" response quite odd. (Unless that's his odd sense of humor and way of laughing hysterically). But, you can't extort from someone who has nothing to hide.

I would ask you for the number to the account! )

I do get that his response was weird. Unless he does have an off shore account, or more likely that he has something to hide in reference to business trips.

He claims his response was because he thought it was a friend kidding around.
How many people have friends that send extortion texts, claiming you have a half mill in cash and are cheating on your wife?
Ohhhhh, ohhhhh, and they send the text from an unknown number?

Happens to us all, right?

 

[ShoeDiva]

It is very interesting to me. If I were to text you anonymously that if you didn't pay me $38,000 (odd amount, btw) I was going to tell your wife/husband that you had an offshore account worth 1/2 million, you would either a) make plans to meet me immediately (if you did indeed have a secret account that you would want to remain secret) or b) laugh hysterically and say, fine tell on me.

I found his "what are you offering" response quite odd. (Unless that's his odd sense of humor and way of laughing hysterically). But, you can't extort from someone who has nothing to hide.

I would ask you for the number to the account! )

I do get that his response was weird. Unless he does have an off shore account, or more likely that he has something to hide in reference to business trips.

He claims his response was because he thought it was a friend kidding around.
How many people have friends that send extortion texts, claiming you have a half mill in cash and are cheating on your wife?
Ohhhhh, ohhhhh, and they send the text from an unknown number?

Happens to us all, right?

Well, duh. ) ) )

 

[Madea]

It is very interesting to me. If I were to text you anonymously that if you didn't pay me $38,000 (odd amount, btw) I was going to tell your wife/husband that you had an offshore account worth 1/2 million, you would either a) make plans to meet me immediately (if you did indeed have a secret account that you would want to remain secret) or b) laugh hysterically and say, fine tell on me.

I found his "what are you offering" response quite odd. (Unless that's his odd sense of humor and way of laughing hysterically). But, you can't extort from someone who has nothing to hide.

I would ask you for the number to the account! )

I do get that his response was weird. Unless he does have an off shore account, or more likely that he has something to hide in reference to business trips.

He claims his response was because he thought it was a friend kidding around.
How many people have friends that send extortion texts, claiming you have a half mill in cash and are cheating on your wife?
Ohhhhh, ohhhhh, and they send the text from an unknown number?

Happens to us all, right?

Never happened to me. :taunt