Ohio Eases Requirements for Teachers to Carry Guns in Schools
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The Sound Guy
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There is a heck of a lot of liability there.... for the teacher, and school system.
Maybe, but we gotta do something that will actually help. This crap congress is doing sure won't.
Captain Rhett Butler
Driving Instructor
I think it would be easy for a big kid, such as a high schooler to take a gun away from a teacher. I'd rather have a police officer in each and every public school in the US. The school systems have the money, don't think for a minute they can't afford it.
Far West
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There are currently 32 states that may allow teachers or other school personnel to carry a firearm with certain restrictions. These states include:
Alabama — Alabama’s law about guns in schools prohibits carrying firearms “knowingly with intent to do bodily harm.” People with pistol permits are exempt from this prohibition. § 13A-11-72
Alaska — with permission from the school § 11.61.210(a)(7)
Arizona — when used in a program approved by the school § 13-3102(I)(2)
Arkansas — private and religious schools only, and with permission § 5-73-119(e)(11)
Colorado — in certain circumstances and with permission from the school § 18-12-105.5
Connecticut — with permission from the school § 53a-217b(b)
Delaware — with permission from the school
Note that there does not appear to be a restriction on openly carrying a firearm in a Safe School and Recreation Zone for adults, though federal law applies. 11, § 1457(a)-(c)
Florida — As part of the School Guardian Program § 1006.12
Georgia — with permission from the school § 16-11-127.1(6)
Idaho — with permission from the school district § 18-3302D(4)(g)
Indiana — with permission from the school board § 35-47-9-1
Iowa — with permission from the school § 724.4B(2)
Kansas — specifically authorized in writing by the superintendent of any unified school district or the chief administrator of any accredited nonpublic school § 21-6301(a)(11); (j)(2)
Kentucky — with permission from the school § 527.070(3)(f)
Massachusetts — with permission from the school ch. 269, § 10(j)
Michigan — with permission from the school § 750.237a(5)(e)
Minnesota — with permission from the school § 609.66 Subd.1d(f)(8)
Missouri — with permission from the school or the district §§ 571.030.1(10); 571.030.4
Montana — with permission from the school district § 45-8-361(3)
Nevada — with permission from the school § 202.265(3)
New Hampshire — Federal law restricts carry on campus by people who do not have concealed carry permits or licenses. New Hampshire only bans pupils from possessing a firearm in a safe school zone. §§ 193-D:3; 193-D:1
New Jersey — with permission from the school § 2C:39-5(e)(1)
Ohio — with permission from the school 2923.122(D)(1)(a)
Oklahoma — with permission from the school, and only private schools
Oklahoma allows carry by any school personnel with security guard licenses who have been designated by the board of education to carry guns. 21 Okl. St. § 1280.1
Oregon — with a concealed carry license §§ 166.370(1),(3)(g)
South Carolina — with permission from the school § 16-23-420
South Dakota — if the person is a school sentinel § 13-64-1
Tennessee — only in private schools and with permission from the school
Tennessee allows schools in “distressed rural counties” to adopt a policy that authorizes certain staff members to carry concealed firearms, if they fulfill certain training and licensing requirements. § 39-17-1309(e)(6), § 39-17-1309, §49-6-816
Texas — if the person is a designated school marshal § 37.0811
Utah — with a concealed carry permit § 76-10-505.5(4)(a)
Vermont — with permission from the school 13, § 4004(c)
Wyoming — with permission from the school district and a valid concealed carry permit § 21-3-132
Alabama — Alabama’s law about guns in schools prohibits carrying firearms “knowingly with intent to do bodily harm.” People with pistol permits are exempt from this prohibition. § 13A-11-72
Alaska — with permission from the school § 11.61.210(a)(7)
Arizona — when used in a program approved by the school § 13-3102(I)(2)
Arkansas — private and religious schools only, and with permission § 5-73-119(e)(11)
Colorado — in certain circumstances and with permission from the school § 18-12-105.5
Connecticut — with permission from the school § 53a-217b(b)
Delaware — with permission from the school
Note that there does not appear to be a restriction on openly carrying a firearm in a Safe School and Recreation Zone for adults, though federal law applies. 11, § 1457(a)-(c)
Florida — As part of the School Guardian Program § 1006.12
Georgia — with permission from the school § 16-11-127.1(6)
Idaho — with permission from the school district § 18-3302D(4)(g)
Indiana — with permission from the school board § 35-47-9-1
Iowa — with permission from the school § 724.4B(2)
Kansas — specifically authorized in writing by the superintendent of any unified school district or the chief administrator of any accredited nonpublic school § 21-6301(a)(11); (j)(2)
Kentucky — with permission from the school § 527.070(3)(f)
Massachusetts — with permission from the school ch. 269, § 10(j)
Michigan — with permission from the school § 750.237a(5)(e)
Minnesota — with permission from the school § 609.66 Subd.1d(f)(8)
Missouri — with permission from the school or the district §§ 571.030.1(10); 571.030.4
Montana — with permission from the school district § 45-8-361(3)
Nevada — with permission from the school § 202.265(3)
New Hampshire — Federal law restricts carry on campus by people who do not have concealed carry permits or licenses. New Hampshire only bans pupils from possessing a firearm in a safe school zone. §§ 193-D:3; 193-D:1
New Jersey — with permission from the school § 2C:39-5(e)(1)
Ohio — with permission from the school 2923.122(D)(1)(a)
Oklahoma — with permission from the school, and only private schools
Oklahoma allows carry by any school personnel with security guard licenses who have been designated by the board of education to carry guns. 21 Okl. St. § 1280.1
Oregon — with a concealed carry license §§ 166.370(1),(3)(g)
South Carolina — with permission from the school § 16-23-420
South Dakota — if the person is a school sentinel § 13-64-1
Tennessee — only in private schools and with permission from the school
Tennessee allows schools in “distressed rural counties” to adopt a policy that authorizes certain staff members to carry concealed firearms, if they fulfill certain training and licensing requirements. § 39-17-1309(e)(6), § 39-17-1309, §49-6-816
Texas — if the person is a designated school marshal § 37.0811
Utah — with a concealed carry permit § 76-10-505.5(4)(a)
Vermont — with permission from the school 13, § 4004(c)
Wyoming — with permission from the school district and a valid concealed carry permit § 21-3-132
MudFlap
Pursuit Driver
My son is a school teacher and he owns guns. (he's just 24 years old)
I'm sure that he thinks carrying a sidearm in the classroom is a bad idea.
Begs the question (and I have worked at our local High School in this capacity) - How do we secure our schools?
It's about having armed protection there - i.e. Resource Officers / one per school
and/or - having a federal (yes, federal, not necessarily local) program that employs former police and military to be on-site at each and every school.
and.... having control over egress points into the building(s) and onto the campus. This is a tough one because of the way many campuses are laid-out. But it's workable.
Politicians don't want the problem solved. Like so many other issues, they want to string out the problem for political gain.
I'm sure that he thinks carrying a sidearm in the classroom is a bad idea.
Begs the question (and I have worked at our local High School in this capacity) - How do we secure our schools?
It's about having armed protection there - i.e. Resource Officers / one per school
and/or - having a federal (yes, federal, not necessarily local) program that employs former police and military to be on-site at each and every school.
and.... having control over egress points into the building(s) and onto the campus. This is a tough one because of the way many campuses are laid-out. But it's workable.
Politicians don't want the problem solved. Like so many other issues, they want to string out the problem for political gain.
Paxilpapa
Serenity, through modern chemistry
I've thought about this problem quite a bit every since Columbine, and it all comes down to turning the schools into some form of concentration campus. Heavy walls that are topped with concertina wire with only one point of access/egress with a built in 'Mantrap' that does not allow any motor vehicle inside. This means the walled in area would be between the parking lot and drop off areas. A state of the art camera system will be required and should be manned by a second security person while the resource officer patrols the interior and another officer controls the Mantrap. High walls, security cameras and at least three dedicated security personnel,,, surely our government can afford that!
MudFlap
Pursuit Driver
You just won the internet.
cptlo
Pursuit Driver
I can picture a crazy gunman busting into a classroom and being immediately met with 30 5th graders pointing their Glocks at him. Talk about an 'oh sh*t' moment for him.
Boss 302
Pursuit Driver
Quite a few blue states on that list.
Boss 302
Pursuit Driver
That's the biggest problem right there. Politicians want issues that they can make big deals about while campaigning like health care, Social Security, and abortion. These are the issues that have been at the forefront of every presidential and congressional campaign for decades now.