Measles are back

Boss 302

Pursuit Driver
#1
There are 100K cases of Measles in Europe and it's spreading. https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/la...ak-hits-100-000-people-in-Europe-WHO-confirms

25K cases in Ukraine. http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2019/05/measles-outbreaks-continue-grow-us-europe

A cruise ship owned by the Church of Scientology is quarantined in the Caribbean after a confirmed case of Measles.

This is what happens when a disease once prevented through vaccinations reoccurs because parents refuse to have their children vaccinated because they believe misinformation and fake news about immunizations.
 

JawJa

Expert Driver
#2
While I do agree that the 'fear of vaccination' is a part of the spread of measles and other diseases...

IMO the massive influx of folks from a region where vaccinations are not given to everyone on a routine basis...
Holds some of the blame!

We really need to secure the southern border and tighten airport entries...
Or we are gonna have an epidemic of some sorts in the USA... :(
 

Guard Dad

Administrator
Staff member
#3
I have lots of Facebook friends who are anti-vax. While I am aware that some of them have been very bad (Gardasil, etc), the actual data I've seen indicates that most have been very successful in eliminating or almost eliminating certain epidemics.
 

Boss 302

Pursuit Driver
#4
I think it's very important that all parents have their children vaccinated for MMR and Polio. I also think it's important that we restrict people from entering our country from countries where Measles are currently an issue. The virus stays active and contagious in the air for up to two hours, and can be transmitted from an infected person for up to four days before and after a rash appears.
 

JawJa

Expert Driver
#5
IMO...
The problem is both the anti-vax folks AND the folks coming into the USA from places without 100% vaccination working for many many years!

On the vaccines...
I remember as a kid going to the public school and eating a sugar cube with pink liquid on it...
Supposed to protect me from polio... seems to have worked... :)

Problem is though... vaccines have evolved and some of the base chemicals that were NOT there decades ago...
May be dangerous.

We really need an outside group (NOT the FDA, they are owned by big pharma) to investigate the chemicals in the vaccines...
Until that has been done...
We have, IMO, a problem that will not go away.
 

Paxilpapa

Serenity, through modern chemistry
#6
When I was a kid they didn't have MMR, and we survived. Most mothers would deliberately expose their young daughters to infected kids to make sure they didn't get measles when pregnant. In 1954 I was one of the 1.5 million kids given the Saulk vaccine,,, and of course all of us had a badge of courage on our arms from the Smallpox vaccine!
The problem with Measles and Mumps in this day and age,,, is nobody remembers how to deal with it the way our parents did!!!
 

Far West

Honolii Beach
#7
I used to say Anti Vaxxers were nuts in cities and states where many illegal immigrants migrated through or to. But now that is our whole country.

Most illegal border crossers have not had a government capable of providing these people with enough prosperity that they have the ability to pay for vaccinations (due to their corrupt, communist/socialist government.) Not only can't they afford it, their country does not have a supply for the population even if they wanted it.
 

JawJa

Expert Driver
#8
I used to say Anti Vaxxers were nuts in cities and states where many illegal immigrants migrated through or to. But now that is our whole country.

Most illegal border crossers have not had a government capable of providing these people with enough prosperity that they have the ability to pay for vaccinations (due to their corrupt, communist/socialist government.) Not only can't they afford it, their country does not have a supply for the population even if they wanted it.
And those corrupt govts do not care about the citizens of their countries enough to provide the vaccines.
WHY should we allow those folks to bring diseases into our country???

Back when... folks had to be screened to get into the USA... and medically was one of the screening.
 

lotstodo

aka "The Jackal"
#9
There are certainly parts of the world where the vax rate is extremely low, but much of central and south America have pretty good rates. That being said, if asylum seekers follow the law and present themselves at a port of entry, that is one question that must be answered. If they sneak in and then yell asylum when they are caught, who knows?
 

JawJa

Expert Driver
#10
Problem is...
There is a growing number of folks from the other side of the oceans both sneaking in... and walking up to the border and asking for assylum.

Those folks are gonna make the same mess in the USA... that has happened in the EU...
Do we want that here???
 

lotstodo

aka "The Jackal"
#11
Problem is...
There is a growing number of folks from the other side of the oceans both sneaking in... and walking up to the border and asking for assylum.

Those folks are gonna make the same mess in the USA... that has happened in the EU...
Do we want that here???
We have rules for asylum that include limiting the number of people from specific countries and regions. We also try to vet them. If someone presents themselves at a port of entry, they are subject to all those rules. I don't mind who presents themselves, because they will be vetted. I only mind who sneaks in.
 
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