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Everyone is entitled to their beliefs
Absolutely correct. And I will remind the Gay Mafia of that next time they jump all over someone who believes that homosexuality is sinful.
As long as they say that is their belief, I will not jump on anyone.
Words mean something, as do the lack of words.
Please do not shoot me.
Please do shoot me.
I believe that there is no God.
There is no God.
Major major differences.
That it is one's opinion is implied. I thought you were tired of political correctness?
I realize that this is a sore point for you, and I respect that. But you should respect others beliefs too. My belief is firm and I think it is well supported. Many accomplished Bible scholars have the same belief I do. That you believe otherwise does not make me wrong. So agree to disagree and let it go.
No, that it is one's opinion is not implied.
That is my only objection.
As my example showed, there is a major difference in the words, there is no God and I believe there is no God.
One is a statement of fact and the other is a personal belief.
I absolutely respect the
beliefs of others and I will not argue against someone's beliefs.
I may discuss them, but I will respect their beliefs and their right to those beliefs.
I am not upset with you, I know you and I think I know your heart, so my disagreement has been on the facts, not beliefs.
Yes, there are those scholars who support your beliefs, just as there are those scholars who don't.
But we would never even have gotten this deep had the words, this is what I believe to be true (or similar words) been used.
It is a sore point with me, whether I am discussing this topic or I am discussing whether or not God exists with an atheist.
I am disagree just as strongly with someone that says, there is no God.
As long as someone says, this is what I believe, then I may disagree, I may ask some questions, but I will defend that person's right to those beliefs, against anyone, whether I agree with those beliefs or not. (I am speaking about spiritual matters)
One last thing, you have a daughter and granddaughter.
How would you feel if someone, someone one you liked and respected, said, because of their religious beliefs, that your daughter and granddaughter were no different in God's eyes than a pedophile, for whatever reason their religious beliefs.
It would not make you happy.
And when you said, hey, wait a minute!
They said, don't talk to me, God says that, not me.
I was told by an old Catholic lady (one of my wife's relatives) that I was not going to heaven because I was not Catholic.
In fact, that applies to not only to me, but to all non-Catholics.
She backed it up with whatever she had been taught in Catholic school in the 1940's and 50's.
She didn't say that was her belief, she said, that was the way it was, take it up with God if I didn't like it.
Now that is bad, but not as bad as accusing someone's family member of being the same as a pedophile.
No, my son is not gay, at least if he is, I don't know it and he has been chasing the wrong sex.
But, there are a lot of people who do have gay children and gay brothers and sisters and etc.