"I Ached Every Day For A Father"

My heart aches for her. Girls need their daddies. They learn so much from that relationship, that it carries over well into their adult years. That relationship is vital to a girl's healthy self esteem. I believe we can all agree with that.

That being said, if a relationship with a bio dad is not healthy, then it can do more harm than not having a dad. Still, I'm glad this woman has the courage to speak up and tell the truth about what everyone knows (deep down) anyway (but will refuse knowing, because it interferes with their agenda).
 
Barwick, who remains close with her mother, was careful to explain that she isn’t saying gay people can’t be good parents, but that she believes in the end that the most successful and optimal family structure is one in which kids have both a mother and a father — a sentiment that she believes other children of gay parents should also feel free to express.

She's simply saying the same thing many of us have said. The traditional family is the optimal environment for raising healthy children. Are there exceptions? Yes, there always are.
 
Madea said:
Barwick, who remains close with her mother, was careful to explain that she isn’t saying gay people can’t be good parents, but that she believes in the end that the most successful and optimal family structure is one in which kids have both a mother and a father — a sentiment that she believes other children of gay parents should also feel free to express.

She's simply saying the same thing many of us have said. The traditional family is the optimal environment for raising healthy children. Are there exceptions? Yes, there always are.

Bingo!!
 
I'm going to be that guy and say my take away from the article is the blunt truth that good fathers don't just grow on trees.

I think it's really immaterial whether she was raised by lez-beans or wolves in her case, the fact that she dismissed her real dad by saying "he wasn't that great of a guy", is much more than many can say who never even met the guy with the XY chromosome set that spawned them.

This is in no way being dismissive of a "traditional family" set, but really the article shows that a woman who was raised by two women still was able to aptly pick a guy who ended up being a great dad for their kids which is a better outcome than many unwed mothers, etc.. can claim.

And I'm not being negative, I think that good fathers are something a family needs, but the reality so few men are capable of this role.
 
She missed having that father figure. Her own father "wasn't a good guy" and her mother's partner was another woman. I think children crave both a mother and father. Sometimes the situation can't be fixed. Sometimes adults don't try.
 
I didn't mean to take anything away from other parental arrangements. Many times, a traditional nuclear family is not possible, and single parents or even non-conventional parents do the best they can, and often a very good job. I have stated here before that a loving same-sex set of parents can be preferable to a bad family situation or an orphanage, etc.

But having a loving mother and father is the ideal environment for a child.
 
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.
 
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.
 
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.
Not really. She's saying that same sex parenting is not at ideal as traditional husband/wife parenting. Just because it can work, doesn't mean it's ideal.

“It’s only with some time and distance from my childhood that I’m able to reflect on my experiences and recognize the long-term consequences that same-sex parenting had on me.”

“A lot of us, a lot of your kids, are hurting. My father’s absence created a huge hole in me, and I ached every day for a dad,” she wrote. “I loved my mom’s partner, but another mom could never have replaced the father I lost.”
 
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.
 
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.

So you aren't going to admit that having a loving mother and father is the best family structure?
 
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.
Oh my gosh. You know better than this. Are you just antagonizing us?

And material things do not compare to having parents.
 
I think she's also trying to open a dialogue with the lesbian community. She was speaking to a lesbian group. She points out that she couldn't talk about wanting a father, and many other kids can't either.
 
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.

So you aren't going to admit that having a loving mother and father is the best family structure?

No, and as others have said, in some situations, it's not best.
 
deewee said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.
Oh my gosh. You know better than this. Are you just antagonizing us?

And material things do not compare to having parents.

I would never say something just to antagonize... :whistle :whistle :whistle :whistle
 
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.

So you aren't going to admit that having a loving mother and father is the best family structure?

No, and as others have said, in some situations, it's not best.

So the Bible is wrong?
 
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.

So you aren't going to admit that having a loving mother and father is the best family structure?

No, and as others have said, in some situations, it's not best.

So the Bible is wrong?

No, humans are.
 
Re: "I Ached Every Day For A Father"

LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
Guard Dad said:
LisaC said:
So because she turned out to be so well-rounded and learned so much from the gay community, she believes that a traditional family structure is preferable? I think she is proof that it can work both ways.

She makes clear what her motivation is....she missed not having a daddy.

I don't think anyone is saying it can't work other ways, only that having a loving mother AND father is best. Since that is God's plan as well, I am surprised if you don't agree.


I missed not having more toys to play with. I missed having 3 meals a day. I missed having shoes that fit. I could go on - but I'm saying that it's always easy for folks to focus on the things that we "missed" in life instead of looking at the blessings around us.

So you aren't going to admit that having a loving mother and father is the best family structure?

No, and as others have said, in some situations, it's not best.

So the Bible is wrong?

No, humans are.
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