Development in the Morrison lawsuit

WOW!!! The Court reversed the award of attorneys fees. I'll have to read the whole ruling later. I wonder if they will comment on it?
 
I saw that, and read the opinion, and don't know any more than I did before I read it. I gather it wasn't favorable to the Morrisons from the comments some others have made, but I'm not sure.
 
The Morrison's have pushed this to the limit. Somehow the entitlement issue got in the way. We're talking about less than 20 feet on the right of way. I appreciate the county holding it's own against this ridiculous lawsuit. This has only been going on for so long because the Morrison's keep on and on and on.

Please quit costing the taxpayers so much money and take care of what you have. I'm sorry the county gave approval for a developer to build a subdivision around you, you had the option to buy the land, you chose to hold out for more hoping a commercial buy would come along. It didn't happen, quit spending taxpayer money on your frivolous law suit.

You better go to confession and pray with Father Adrian, oh wait you can't..............you almost got sued by a church member, didn't you?? Clean up your back yard before you start accusing others of doing you wrong.

For far too long, I've kept my mouth and fingers quiet, enough is enough. The Charade is over.
 
Ditto to naturegirl

I've been digging into this and getting more information. I am convinced that the only thing driving this thing is greed. I don't feel sorry for anyone who has been pouring money into fighting a battle like this in pursuit of "their day in court" and of course...that check they expected to get when the deal was done.

They should have settled long ago, quit raising the stakes, and finally quit costing the taxpayers of Paulding County more money by pushing this lawsuit.
 
deewee said:
Ditto to naturegirl

I've been digging into this and getting more information. I am convinced that the only thing driving this thing is greed. I don't feel sorry for anyone who has been pouring money into fighting a battle like this in pursuit of "their day in court" and of course...that check they expected to get when the deal was done.

They should have settled long ago, quit raising the stakes, and finally quit costing the taxpayers of Paulding County more money by pushing this lawsuit.

:love I've been holding this in for entirely too long. Thanks Deewee. I'll probably regret it in the morning but dang, I'm so tired of the lies and deceit.
 
naturegirl said:
deewee said:
Ditto to naturegirl

I've been digging into this and getting more information. I am convinced that the only thing driving this thing is greed. I don't feel sorry for anyone who has been pouring money into fighting a battle like this in pursuit of "their day in court" and of course...that check they expected to get when the deal was done.

They should have settled long ago, quit raising the stakes, and finally quit costing the taxpayers of Paulding County more money by pushing this lawsuit.

:love I've been holding this in for entirely too long. Thanks Deewee. I'll probably regret it in the morning but dang, I'm so tired of the lies and deceit.
I could understand initially seeking compensation but to turn down offers & continue pushing the agenda is ridiculous. At some point you have to forgive and forget...something the plaintiff hasn't grasped yet. Unfortunately, it's costing them dearly in their pockets & their health, and it's costing the taxpayers dearly.
 
naturegirl said:
The Morrison's have pushed this to the limit. Somehow the entitlement issue got in the way. We're talking about less than 20 feet on the right of way. I appreciate the county holding it's own against this ridiculous lawsuit. This has only been going on for so long because the Morrison's keep on and on and on.

Please quit costing the taxpayers so much money and take care of what you have. I'm sorry the county gave approval for a developer to build a subdivision around you, you had the option to buy the land, you chose to hold out for more hoping a commercial buy would come along. It didn't happen, quit spending taxpayer money on your frivolous law suit.

You better go to confession and pray with Father Adrian, oh wait you can't..............you almost got sued by a church member, didn't you?? And those heart issues you've had, you know the irregular heart beats......if you didn't drink so much you might not have to have your heart shocked back. Clean up your back yard before you start accusing others of doing you wrong.

For far too long, I've kept my mouth and fingers quiet, enough is enough. The Charade is over.
NG I know you said you might regret this in the morning, but I am glad you wrote this. I have "heard" all of this, but as with many thing here in Paulding I am never sure what is just gossip and what actually is true. I do respect that you do not gossip so now I know.
 
naturegirl said:
The Morrison's have pushed this to the limit. Somehow the entitlement issue got in the way. We're talking about less than 20 feet on the right of way. I appreciate the county holding it's own against this ridiculous lawsuit. This has only been going on for so long because the Morrison's keep on and on and on.

Please quit costing the taxpayers so much money and take care of what you have. I'm sorry the county gave approval for a developer to build a subdivision around you, you had the option to buy the land, you chose to hold out for more hoping a commercial buy would come along. It didn't happen, quit spending taxpayer money on your frivolous law suit.

You better go to confession and pray with Father Adrian, oh wait you can't..............you almost got sued by a church member, didn't you?? And those heart issues you've had, you know the irregular heart beats......if you didn't drink so much you might not have to have your heart shocked back. Clean up your back yard before you start accusing others of doing you wrong.

For far too long, I've kept my mouth and fingers quiet, enough is enough. The Charade is over.
:runforhills :runaway
 
naturegirl said:
deewee said:
Ditto to naturegirl

I've been digging into this and getting more information. I am convinced that the only thing driving this thing is greed. I don't feel sorry for anyone who has been pouring money into fighting a battle like this in pursuit of "their day in court" and of course...that check they expected to get when the deal was done.

They should have settled long ago, quit raising the stakes, and finally quit costing the taxpayers of Paulding County more money by pushing this lawsuit.

:love I've been holding this in for entirely too long. Thanks Deewee. I'll probably regret it in the morning but dang, I'm so tired of the lies and deceit.

Just consider the source!
 
deewee said:
naturegirl said:
deewee said:
Ditto to naturegirl

I've been digging into this and getting more information. I am convinced that the only thing driving this thing is greed. I don't feel sorry for anyone who has been pouring money into fighting a battle like this in pursuit of "their day in court" and of course...that check they expected to get when the deal was done.

They should have settled long ago, quit raising the stakes, and finally quit costing the taxpayers of Paulding County more money by pushing this lawsuit.

:love I've been holding this in for entirely too long. Thanks Deewee. I'll probably regret it in the morning but dang, I'm so tired of the lies and deceit.
I could understand initially seeking compensation but to turn down offers & continue pushing the agenda is ridiculous. At some point you have to forgive and forget...something the plaintiff hasn't grasped yet. Unfortunately, it's costing them dearly in their pockets & their health, and it's costing the taxpayers dearly.

::ditto
 
newsjunky said:
naturegirl said:
The Morrison's have pushed this to the limit. Somehow the entitlement issue got in the way. We're talking about less than 20 feet on the right of way. I appreciate the county holding it's own against this ridiculous lawsuit. This has only been going on for so long because the Morrison's keep on and on and on.

Please quit costing the taxpayers so much money and take care of what you have. I'm sorry the county gave approval for a developer to build a subdivision around you, you had the option to buy the land, you chose to hold out for more hoping a commercial buy would come along. It didn't happen, quit spending taxpayer money on your frivolous law suit.

You better go to confession and pray with Father Adrian, oh wait you can't..............you almost got sued by a church member, didn't you?? And those heart issues you've had, you know the irregular heart beats......if you didn't drink so much you might not have to have your heart shocked back. Clean up your back yard before you start accusing others of doing you wrong.

For far too long, I've kept my mouth and fingers quiet, enough is enough. The Charade is over.
:runforhills :runaway

:snick_bunny
 
OK, first, yowsa - I can respect that y'all who know them don't like them for whatever reason.

Second, I can respect that y'all who know them don't think their case has merit.

But third, and this is pre-eminent for me - It. Doesn't. Matter. That is to say, it doesn't matter if their case has merit. For me, this case has never been about the merits. I've said all along that I don't know them from Adam's housecat and they might be crazy as a bunch of bessie bugs. But that doesn't matter. What matters is that a citizen has a right to redress when he/she feels wronged by the government.

It's my understanding that a judge has the authority to throw out a frivolous lawsuit soon after it's filed. If it's not deemed frivolous, then the plaintiffs have a right to have their case heard by a jury of their peers. If then, a jury of their peers thinks they're idiots and chooses to say well you should have settled you morons, then so be it. But to deny a plaintiff the chance to go before a jury for six years is just not right, IMHO.

The first amendment to the Constitution says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If the government is allowed to stonewall a plaintiff for six years and half a million of plaintiff's dollars, then who can seek redress? Also, let's assume their case had merit...say it was an egregious example of something the county did or allowed and someone died as a result. Would they not have the right to sue and be compensated? I know the settlement is coming out of our pockets as taxpayers, BUT if the county was in error, then the county was in error. (Also, isn't this what insurance is for?)

I know many will say, well if the county doesn't stop this one, then everybody and his brother will be suing the county for every little thing. A) Really? Everybody and his brother is going to spend $1000 or $2500 or whatever it would cost to hire a lawyer to file a piddly lawsuit? And 2) as I've said before - if it's frivolous, LET THE JUDGE THROW IT OUT. And if it's not frivolous, let it go to trial and let the chips fall where they may. If the county's behavior needs to be changed, then perhaps a judgment against them will spur the change.

And finally, I have seen municipalities before who operated like little fiefdoms re: speed traps and the like. The citizens put up with it for years because "you can't fight city hall" and things are the way they are. Until somebody comes along with a lot of money (or who is a lawyer himself) and sues the municipality and sticks with it and is awarded a multi-million-dollar settlement, and then the municipality really is in pain.

I have said all along - I have no idea of the merits of this case, nor do I care about the merits of the case. Because the merits don't matter. What matters is that a citizen of this country has a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. And that is what I believe has been denied them in this case.

Flame me if you will, and if I stand alone in this matter, so be it. If it's frivolous, let Judge Beavers throw it out. Otherwise, let it go to trial and BE DONE WITH IT.
 
mei lan said:
OK, first, yowsa - I can respect that y'all who know them don't like them for whatever reason.

Second, I can respect that y'all who know them don't think their case has merit.

But third, and this is pre-eminent for me - It. Doesn't. Matter. That is to say, it doesn't matter if their case has merit. For me, this case has never been about the merits. I've said all along that I don't know them from Adam's housecat and they might be crazy as a bunch of bessie bugs. But that doesn't matter. What matters is that a citizen has a right to redress when he/she feels wronged by the government.

It's my understanding that a judge has the authority to throw out a frivolous lawsuit soon after it's filed. If it's not deemed frivolous, then the plaintiffs have a right to have their case heard by a jury of their peers. If then, a jury of their peers thinks they're idiots and chooses to say well you should have settled you morons, then so be it. But to deny a plaintiff the chance to go before a jury for six years is just not right, IMHO.

The first amendment to the Constitution says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If the government is allowed to stonewall a plaintiff for six years and half a million of plaintiff's dollars, then who can seek redress? Also, let's assume their case had merit...say it was an egregious example of something the county did or allowed and someone died as a result. Would they not have the right to sue and be compensated? I know the settlement is coming out of our pockets as taxpayers, BUT if the county was in error, then the county was in error. (Also, isn't this what insurance is for?)

I know many will say, well if the county doesn't stop this one, then everybody and his brother will be suing the county for every little thing. A) Really? Everybody and his brother is going to spend $1000 or $2500 or whatever it would cost to hire a lawyer to file a piddly lawsuit? And 2) as I've said before - if it's frivolous, LET THE JUDGE THROW IT OUT. And if it's not frivolous, let it go to trial and let the chips fall where they may. If the county's behavior needs to be changed, then perhaps a judgment against them will spur the change.

And finally, I have seen municipalities before who operated like little fiefdoms re: speed traps and the like. The citizens put up with it for years because "you can't fight city hall" and things are the way they are. Until somebody comes along with a lot of money (or who is a lawyer himself) and sues the municipality and sticks with it and is awarded a multi-million-dollar settlement, and then the municipality really is in pain.

I have said all along - I have no idea of the merits of this case, nor do I care about the merits of the case. Because the merits don't matter. What matters is that a citizen of this country has a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. And that is what I believe has been denied them in this case.

Flame me if you will, and if I stand alone in this matter, so be it. If it's frivolous, let Judge Beavers throw it out. Otherwise, let it go to trial and BE DONE WITH IT.

No flaming sweet lady, when someone keeps moving the goal post it's hard to reach conclusion. Yes, please let this thing go to court and get it over with.
 
From my understanding, this lawsuit is about 20' of right of way. They turned down a settlement offer for what that land was worth. They then filed a lawsuit asking for more than $500K plus their attorney fees. Tell me now they weren't motivated by greed.

The people the Morrisons really should be suing is their attorney. Good gosh almighty it sure looks like he was doing a poor job. Why didn't he submit an itemization of his costs and fees to the court as the court required?
 
Foxmeister said:
From my understanding, this lawsuit is about 20' of right of way. They turned down a settlement offer for what that land was worth. They then filed a lawsuit asking for more than $500K plus their attorney fees. Tell me now they weren't motivated by greed.

The people the Morrisons really should be suing is their attorney. Good gosh almighty it sure looks like he was doing a poor job. Why didn't he submit an itemization of his costs and fees to the court as the court required?

He is the city attorney for both Hiram and Dallas. :dunno
 
Mei Lan, I am not going to flame you. But, I would submit that we don't know the whole story about the delays either. We don't know beyond a doubt that it's the county delaying the hearing of this lawsuit. Yet, they are getting all of the blame. I do know that Mr. Stinson battled cancer during a period of time.

I also know that while probably the most expensive attorney in Dallas (even higher than most Marietta attorneys), it's my opinion that he may not be the best. I, personally, would LOVE to see an itemized statement from Mr. Stinson that he would like the taxpayers to pay.
 
Mei Lan, I meant to add, a judge can't simply throw out a lawsuit that he deems frivilous. It simply doesn't work that way.
 
Madea said:
Mei Lan, I am not going to flame you. But, I would submit that we don't know the whole story about the delays either. We don't know beyond a doubt that it's the county delaying the hearing of this lawsuit. Yet, they are getting all of the blame. I do know that Mr. Stinson battled cancer during a period of time.

I also know that while probably the most expensive attorney in Dallas (even higher than most Marietta attorneys), it's my opinion that he may not be the best. I, personally, would LOVE to see an itemized statement from Mr. Stinson that he would like the taxpayers to pay.

I've followed this semi-closely since the beginning. Even drove to the property to look for myself. There were some merits to the case and it should have gone forward. There were delays from both sides for many reasons and the County was found at fault for some of the delays about 2 years I think and had to pay 2 fines. I think this was appealed and do not know the outcome.

There were many attempts to settle this out of court. Several offers to buy his property about market value (during the peak of values, not what we see now) were ignored or turned down.

He's had an agenda since this all started and he was not going to bend, ever. And he burned a LOT of bridges in the process. His suites were never about getting what was fair but about payback for not getting all the land around him not zoned commercial and his fraudulent land deal (he admitted to me of using an illegal straw buyer). So this case has so many layers to it, it's hard to follow.


Now, can someone give me the cliff note's, non-attorney version of that court ruling?
 
Re: Re: Development in the Morrison lawsuit

mei lan said:
OK, first, yowsa - I can respect that y'all who know them don't like them for whatever reason.

Second, I can respect that y'all who know them don't think their case has merit.

But third, and this is pre-eminent for me - It. Doesn't. Matter. That is to say, it doesn't matter if their case has merit. For me, this case has never been about the merits. I've said all along that I don't know them from Adam's housecat and they might be crazy as a bunch of bessie bugs. But that doesn't matter. What matters is that a citizen has a right to redress when he/she feels wronged by the government.

It's my understanding that a judge has the authority to throw out a frivolous lawsuit soon after it's filed. If it's not deemed frivolous, then the plaintiffs have a right to have their case heard by a jury of their peers. If then, a jury of their peers thinks they're idiots and chooses to say well you should have settled you morons, then so be it. But to deny a plaintiff the chance to go before a jury for six years is just not right, IMHO.

The first amendment to the Constitution says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

If the government is allowed to stonewall a plaintiff for six years and half a million of plaintiff's dollars, then who can seek redress? Also, let's assume their case had merit...say it was an egregious example of something the county did or allowed and someone died as a result. Would they not have the right to sue and be compensated? I know the settlement is coming out of our pockets as taxpayers, BUT if the county was in error, then the county was in error. (Also, isn't this what insurance is for?)

I know many will say, well if the county doesn't stop this one, then everybody and his brother will be suing the county for every little thing. A) Really? Everybody and his brother is going to spend $1000 or $2500 or whatever it would cost to hire a lawyer to file a piddly lawsuit? And 2) as I've said before - if it's frivolous, LET THE JUDGE THROW IT OUT. And if it's not frivolous, let it go to trial and let the chips fall where they may. If the county's behavior needs to be changed, then perhaps a judgment against them will spur the change.

And finally, I have seen municipalities before who operated like little fiefdoms re: speed traps and the like. The citizens put up with it for years because "you can't fight city hall" and things are the way they are. Until somebody comes along with a lot of money (or who is a lawyer himself) and sues the municipality and sticks with it and is awarded a multi-million-dollar settlement, and then the municipality really is in pain.

I have said all along - I have no idea of the merits of this case, nor do I care about the merits of the case. Because the merits don't matter. What matters is that a citizen of this country has a right to petition the government for a redress of grievances. And that is what I believe has been denied them in this case.

Flame me if you will, and if I stand alone in this matter, so be it. If it's frivolous, let Judge Beavers throw it out. Otherwise, let it go to trial and BE DONE WITH IT.
yes!! If it's so minor, why not go to court and prove it? Why spend a million keeping it out of court? Senseless.

Sent from my SGH-T679 using Tapatalk 2
 
Back
Top