AYP Results Are Out--Paulding Did Not Meet

NJ, I don't know what the answer is, how did we manage to get a better education than these kids today?? I just can't figure it out. I do know teachers expected us to behave and be quiet. My mom wouldn't think of going to school on my behalf, it I got in trouble there I was in even bigger trouble at home. The teacher was ALWAYS right, no matter what. Well, that's what she told us anyway.
 
Not one of the high schools met AYP?

I firmly believe that in large part, this is a curriculum problem, which the BoE has no control over. Another problem I hear from a lot of middle and high school students is the lack of text books. There are not enough to assign subject text books to each student, therefor they don't have one to take home to use for study. There's not enough time for a student to both read the material in the classroom and for the teacher to lecture on the material. To give the teacher ample time to lecture on the subject matter, each student should have their own text book to read the material the night prior.

If I was on the BoE, I would occasionally sit in on classroom instruction unannounced to see what is going on for myself. As far as the curriculum goes, the state BoE controls that. The local district has no say so in curriculum. I'm a firm believer the control of the curriculum belongs at the local district level. If you have this and school choice, you create competition amongst the districts and within. Competition will improve academics. If any of you attended the GOP County convention, you would have heard Howard Maxwell say the state needs to control the curriculum. I like the guy, but I strongly disagree with him on this.

If I remember correctly, the only elected official on the state BoE is the State School Superintendent, while all the board members are appointed. When they control the curriculum, how much of a voice do you think we have with people on the board who are appointed? None really. How accessible are the state BoE meetings to parents across the state? Not very. We really have no voice with them at all.

If the control of the curriculum were at the local district where it is much easier for us to attend meetings and every member is elected; we'd have a huge voice. Not only that, it makes it much easier to hold those at the local district accountable. How accountable is the state BoE to us? Not much at all.
 
naturegirl said:
NJ, I don't know what the answer is, how did we manage to get a better education than these kids today?? I just can't figure it out. I do know teachers expected us to behave and be quiet. My mom wouldn't think of going to school on my behalf, it I got in trouble there I was in even bigger trouble at home. The teacher was ALWAYS right, no matter what. Well, that's what she told us anyway.
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A significant problem with have in our schools is the lack of discipline in them. Too many parents would rather be their kids friend rather than their parent. Too many of them refuse to believe their little "angel" is really a little "devil" causing problems. The schools created In-School Suspension to appease parents instead of not barring the kid from school during the suspension. We don't want lil Johnny's parent to have to stay home from work because their little angel disrupted class too many times or smacked another kid to take his lunch money. Perhaps if we began inconveniencing parents of kids who can't behave in school by keeping them home a few days, the little "angel" will get some discipline at home because mom or dad had to take a few days off from work to be at home with him or her.
 
We also have teachers that should not be teaching. Period. We lost many good first and second year teachers and were left with some that for the life of me I can not understand why they are in the classroom.
 
ShoeDiva said:
We also have teachers that should not be teaching. Period. We lost many good first and second year teachers and were left with some that for the life of me I can not understand why they are in the classroom.
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I wasn't going to go there but I sooooooooo agree. I honestly didn't think there ever could be a bad teacher until my youngest went to school in Paulding County. His kindergarten teacher didn't know he could read until April of that year. He started kindergarten as a reader. Never had a problem with the two older ones, corporal punishment was still allowed.
 
So I'm checking out the details under the Academic Performance scores/report for one of the schools and I have a question. It breaks down the students by race, etc. What do SWD and ELL stand for? I'm guessing the ELL is the abbrevation for the current politically correct term for ESL (no Y or N for English LA reported for this group) but I'm lost on SWD.






(I'm sure I'll have a "Duh!" moment when you tell me.)
 
unionmom said:
So I'm checking out the details under the Academic Performance scores/report for one of the schools and I have a question. It breaks down the students by race, etc. What do SWD and ELL stand for? I'm guessing the ELL is the abbrevation for the current politically correct term for ESL (no CRCT English LA scores reported for this group) but I'm lost on SWD.





(I'm sure I'll have a "Duh!" moment when you tell me.)
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Students with disabilities
 
naturegirl said:
ShoeDiva said:
We also have teachers that should not be teaching. Period. We lost many good first and second year teachers and were left with some that for the life of me I can not understand why they are in the classroom.
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I wasn't going to go there but I sooooooooo agree. I honestly didn't think there ever could be a bad teacher until my youngest went to school in Paulding County. His kindergarten teacher didn't know he could read until April of that year. He started kindergarten as a reader. Never had a problem with the two older ones, corporal punishment was still allowed.
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I didn't want to go there either, but now that we have. We need a system in place that fairly evaluates a teacher's effectiveness. Look how long it takes for some teachers to grade a test and get it back to the students. Our kids had to wait up to three weeks at times to get their graded test back. Tests are peformance measures and when a teacher waits that long, they are not only hurting the students, but actually their own performance potential in the classroom.
 
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
So I'm checking out the details under the Academic Performance scores/report for one of the schools and I have a question. It breaks down the students by race, etc. What do SWD and ELL stand for? I'm guessing the ELL is the abbrevation for the current politically correct term for ESL (no CRCT English LA scores reported for this group) but I'm lost on SWD.





(I'm sure I'll have a "Duh!" moment when you tell me.)
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Wow, that's worse than a Duh moment. Maybe I need to go back to school.






shut up, GD
 
unionmom said:
ShoeDiva said:
unionmom said:
So I'm checking out the details under the Academic Performance scores/report for one of the schools and I have a question. It breaks down the students by race, etc. What do SWD and ELL stand for? I'm guessing the ELL is the abbrevation for the current politically correct term for ESL (no CRCT English LA scores reported for this group) but I'm lost on SWD.





(I'm sure I'll have a "Duh!" moment when you tell me.)
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Students with disabilities
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Wow, that's worse than a Duh moment. Maybe I need to go back to school.






shut up, GD
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LOL. It's okay. There are soooooo many abbreviations we all forget at times.
 
Attendance is a problem, according to the report. The issues around the Feb. break this last year could have been a contributing factor but I've seen for myself that there are way too many parents that do not take attendance seriously.
 
Foxmeister said:
Not one of the high schools met AYP?

I firmly believe that in large part, this is a curriculum problem, which the BoE has no control over. Another problem I hear from a lot of middle and high school students is the lack of text books. There are not enough to assign subject text books to each student, therefor they don't have one to take home to use for study. There's not enough time for a student to both read the material in the classroom and for the teacher to lecture on the material. To give the teacher ample time to lecture on the subject matter, each student should have their own text book to read the material the night prior.

If I was on the BoE, I would occasionally sit in on classroom instruction unannounced to see what is going on for myself. As far as the curriculum goes, the state BoE controls that. The local district has no say so in curriculum. I'm a firm believer the control of the curriculum belongs at the local district level. If you have this and school choice, you create competition amongst the districts and within. Competition will improve academics. If any of you attended the GOP County convention, you would have heard Howard Maxwell say the state needs to control the curriculum. I like the guy, but I strongly disagree with him on this.

If I remember correctly, the only elected official on the state BoE is the State School Superintendent, while all the board members are appointed. When they control the curriculum, how much of a voice do you think we have with people on the board who are appointed? None really. How accessible are the state BoE meetings to parents across the state? Not very. We really have no voice with them at all.

If the control of the curriculum were at the local district where it is much easier for us to attend meetings and every member is elected; we'd have a huge voice. Not only that, it makes it much easier to hold those at the local district accountable. How accountable is the state BoE to us? Not much at all.
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Dr. Barge gave the local systems the choice about the math curriculum. Sorry but the BOE does have control over whether the students have books. They can hire and fire the Superintendent. He/she controls a lot of what goes on in the schools. I can't give the BOE a pass as much as I would like to. There is no real curriculum in some subjects. The teachers make up a lot of it.
 
newsjunky said:
Foxmeister said:
Not one of the high schools met AYP?

I firmly believe that in large part, this is a curriculum problem, which the BoE has no control over. Another problem I hear from a lot of middle and high school students is the lack of text books. There are not enough to assign subject text books to each student, therefor they don't have one to take home to use for study. There's not enough time for a student to both read the material in the classroom and for the teacher to lecture on the material. To give the teacher ample time to lecture on the subject matter, each student should have their own text book to read the material the night prior.

If I was on the BoE, I would occasionally sit in on classroom instruction unannounced to see what is going on for myself. As far as the curriculum goes, the state BoE controls that. The local district has no say so in curriculum. I'm a firm believer the control of the curriculum belongs at the local district level. If you have this and school choice, you create competition amongst the districts and within. Competition will improve academics. If any of you attended the GOP County convention, you would have heard Howard Maxwell say the state needs to control the curriculum. I like the guy, but I strongly disagree with him on this.

If I remember correctly, the only elected official on the state BoE is the State School Superintendent, while all the board members are appointed. When they control the curriculum, how much of a voice do you think we have with people on the board who are appointed? None really. How accessible are the state BoE meetings to parents across the state? Not very. We really have no voice with them at all.

If the control of the curriculum were at the local district where it is much easier for us to attend meetings and every member is elected; we'd have a huge voice. Not only that, it makes it much easier to hold those at the local district accountable. How accountable is the state BoE to us? Not much at all.
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Dr. Barge gave the local systems the choice about the math curriculum. Sorry but the BOE does have control over whether the students have books. They can hire and fire the Superintendent. He/she controls a lot of what goes on in the schools. I can't give the BOE a pass as much as I would like to.
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I didn't say they didn't have control over books, I said they didn't have control over curriculum. I hold our county BoE responsible for the lack of books as there is no excuse for it. We need to hold our local BoE education's feet to the fire. When we do that, they then will hold the superintendent they hired accountable by holding his feet to the fire as needed. I don't give our BoE a pass on anything when our schools didn't far too well on AYP. Now what they going to do is continuously point out where we improved in Math from last year, while ignoring the other shortcomings.
 
There are not any books made for our Math curriculum that is why the kids do not have any. We are going into the fourth year of it. My son will be a senior. His class has been the first through this whole debacle. (as were a couple of yours) They did not know exactly what to teach, how or when. The EOCT was so bad across the state the first year of Math 1 they threw it out. By now many of the teachers of 1,2,3 have come up with their own little packets and are teaching at the same time. 4...who knows? This will be the first year of 4.
Algebra 1, 2, Geometry, Trig, Calculus, statistics...how many of the kids really needed this all 4 years? At least they did start doing new math in the younger grades. Our kids that are seniors have been through numerous math programs and it almost seems set up to fail with how it was implemented.
I am so sad this will be my sons last year of school and so happy to be done with a system that has tried to reinvent the wheel so many times I have lost track.
 
We spend more per student than I believe 6 or 7 of the states in the Southeast, yet place toward the bottom every year. Our children are not dumber than students in Tennessee or the Carolinas. I say it's time to quit trying to reinvent the wheel and just freaking copy somebody who appears to be on the right track. This cr@p with another "new" math, and other idiotic ideas should be shelved in favor of.....wait for it.... WHAT WORKS.

Georgia is 23rd overall in spending and always 48th or 49th in quality measured by graduation rates, college bound students, or test scores. Tennessee spends $1500 less per student and kicks our butt.
 
lotstodo said:
We spend more per student than I believe 6 or 7 of the states in the Southeast, yet place toward the bottom every year. Our children are not dumber than students in Tennessee or the Carolinas. I say it's time to quit trying to reinvent the wheel and just freaking copy somebody who appears to be on the right track. This cr@p with another "new" math, and other idiotic ideas should be shelved in favor of.....wait for it.... WHAT WORKS.

Georgia is 23rd overall in spending and always 48th or 49th in quality measured by graduation rates, college bound students, or test scores. Tennessee spends $1500 less per student and kicks our butt.
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:CLAP
 
lotstodo said:
We spend more per student than I believe 6 or 7 of the states in the Southeast, yet place toward the bottom every year. Our children are not dumber than students in Tennessee or the Carolinas. I say it's time to quit trying to reinvent the wheel and just freaking copy somebody who appears to be on the right track. This cr@p with another "new" math, and other idiotic ideas should be shelved in favor of.....wait for it.... WHAT WORKS.

Georgia is 23rd overall in spending and always 48th or 49th in quality measured by graduation rates, college bound students, or test scores. Tennessee spends $1500 less per student and kicks our butt.
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I can see we are on the same page! ::ditto
 
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