Updated Murray Coronavirus Model numbers

lotstodo

aka "The Jackal"
The Murray Coronavirus Model has been updated, and we have good news and bad news. The US total deaths are down to 82k from 97k, but the Georgia deaths are up to 3400 from 3200.

 
Do you have similar World projections, not just U.S. numbers? Currently there have been 74,565 total reported deaths worldwide so if the U.S is predicted nearly 100k alone where does that leave total overall numbers?
 
Do you have similar World projections, not just U.S. numbers? Currently there have been 74,565 total reported deaths worldwide so if the U.S is predicted nearly 100k alone where does that leave total overall numbers?
I have only seen regional models. I don't know if anyone has tried to create actual numbers for the entire world or not.
 
I’m not questioning the model, I’m just still stuck on why the US numbers continue to be disproportionate with the rest of the world.
 
If that’s true then any idea what explains why the U.S. has 28% of the world cases and 15% of the total deaths and the most “recent deaths”? What explains why the numbers for Canada and Mexico are much lower than ours? Are our numbers the only “accurate” ones? If you listen to any news media it sounds like WWIII has hit but it sure is odd that the US is the one being bombed the most.

Again, I’m not questioning you or the numbers. I’m still trying to make sense of the overall cases, not just ours.

 
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If that’s true then any idea what explains why the U.S. has 28% of the world cases and 15% of the total deaths and the most “recent deaths”? What explains why the numbers for Canada and Mexico are much lower than ours? Are our numbers the only “accurate” ones? If you listen to any news media it sounds like WWIII has hit but it sure is odd that the US is the one being bombed the most.

Again, I’m not questioning you or the numbers. I’m still trying to make sense of the overall cases, not just ours.


In that chart, Look at deaths per million population... the per capita rate.

I think it would be more valid if everyone were tested, but that is not going to happen. I think only Korea accomplished that.

Some countries, we will never really know who died. We know China lies, the same for other countries.

The more of the population who get it, the more the herd immunity will protect us. Until there is a vaccine, the more people who can have it without dying, the better, in a way. We don't want everyone all at once to get it, we don't want all the hospital personnel and first responders to all go out with it so there is no one to help, we need the health systems to remain functional. That is the whole idea right now to flatten the curve so we are not Italy or New York.

Two things that also influence spread are :
  1. Transportation, as in public, or solo in our own cars,
  2. Population Density as in apartment dwelling verses suburbia with our own home and yard around us.

Using public mass transit (buses, trains, subways exposes us to each other.) Living crammed together exposes us to each other. That is why large cities are hit harder.
 
Some countries, we will never really know who died. We know China lies, the same for other countries.

The Stories coming out of China sending live people into the cremation ovens is sickening. I think China took many steps that would be unacceptable here in the west.

Wuhan

Locals in Wuhan, where the Chinese coronavirus pandemic originated, have heard screams coming from funeral home furnaces, and some treated in hospitals say they saw workers put living coronavirus patients in body bags, Radio Free Asia (RFA) reported on Monday.
RFA noted that it could not independently verify that the Chinese Communist Party was burning coronavirus patients alive, nor has the Communist Party confirmed or denied the rumors. Yet the rumors persist that, to make room for new patients in Wuhan’s overcrowded hospitals, medical staff chose older patients less likely to survive the infection and shipped them to incinerators while they were still alive and conscious.
RFA quoted a source “close to the funeral industry” identified only as Ma who said that he had heard reports of “people restrained and forced into body bags when they were still moving.” “Some people are saying that … there are video clips of screams coming from funeral homes, from inside the furnaces … which tells us that some people were taken to the funeral homes while they were still alive,” Ma added.
Ma also noted the existence of video testimony from an anonymous older woman who had been treated at a Wuhan hospital, presumably for Chinese coronavirus. “One old lady was saying that they put one guy into … a body bag when he wasn’t even dead yet, and took him off to the crematorium because there was no way of saving him,” Ma told RFA.
Video of an older woman speaking anonymously to a camera began circulating on social media in February in which she said she witnessed a patient next to her at a Wuhan hospital stuffed into a body bag while still alive. “He’s not dead, his feet and hands are still moving,” the woman says, “[They] wrapped him in a plastic body bag and zipped it up.”
According to New Tang Dynasty, a broadcaster affiliated with the persecuted Chinese Falun Gong movement, the woman spoke with a Wuhan accent, suggesting she was a native of the central Chinese city.
 
I watched Trump's press conference yesterday. It was explained if someone in the US has COVID-19 and dies from a heart attack or pre-existing illness; it's counted as a COVID-19 death. The reason for that is they can't say for sure which was the actual cause of death. Other countries may not be doing that. Another reason our numbers are much higher than other countries is because we have tested more people.
 
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