Purple Heart for PTSD?

[unionmom]

I think you misunderstand me unionmom. I'm very passionate when it comes to the treatment and care of our military personnel; especially those who have been wounded and suffer from injuries they will suffer from for the rest of their lives. As a leader in the Army I took care of my Soldiers and I took that very seriously; I still do. Perhaps sometimes my passion for this gets me carried away. I hate it when, especially when our government does not want to take care of those who suffer as a result of serving this country.

Show me anywhere that I ever said anything about PTSD not needing to be properly taken care of. Go ahead. You can't. You were too busy attacking me to actually read what I said. They absolutely should be taken care of, they just shouldn't be given the Purple Heart. That's what I have said from start to finish.

 

[unionmom]

I know PTSD isn't only a result of war in foreign lands. I know people suffer from PTSD from other traumatic events as well.

Not just PTSD ... the experiences you specifically mentioned. Again, you aren't actually reading my posts. I guess I shouldn't bother anymore since you clearly aren't reading what I post.

 

[gog8tors]

So let me get this straight ... at no point have I said PTSD isn't real and at no point have I said that PTSD shouldn't be treated and the soldiers fully taken care of yet somehow Fox has decided that I said it is fake and he has attacked me for saying so? Dude, you need to get out of the heat. :laugh

I think, he misunderstood you. I know you know this is not fake.
I don't know if people understand just how serious this is. It has nothing with one mind being weaker then another. I would almost say it is the stronger mind that is more likely to break.

I know two guys who always considered themselves tough as nails. These guys were always in top physical condition and good size guys at that. They were really gung-ho. Now they both suffer from PTSD.

I would be willing to wager that at least half of our military personnel who experienced combat have PTSD. The only reasons why the numbers are lower than what I believe them to be is because a large percentage of them who have it, don't want to seek help for it because of the stigma so many people have attached to it.

So many people seem to think that when they are around someone with PTSD that they have to walk on eggshells because they are afraid the person with PTSD will go "postal." Many are afraid if they get treated for their PTSD, they will become ineligible to own firearms because they are suffering from a "mental disorder." A lot of them think it will adversely effect their military career progression. Those who got out of the military and suffer from it, don't seek treatment for it because they believe it will make them unemployable.

People have attached so many stigmas to PTSD and that's why so many don't seek treatment for it.

You are very correct. Unfortunately some of these fears are things that do happen. Our LEO friend is one that I know of for sure.
Sometimes you do have to walk on eggshells around them. Those are the days I keep husband hidden. :laugh

And again, it's cute that you presume to know what I have experienced in life. You blew up and over-reacted because of whatever your personal issues are and ended up making yourself look ... well, no point going there. In the end, you basically agree with exactly what I said. Wasn't that fun? :huh

And again, it's cute that you presume to know what I have experienced in life. You blew up and over-reacted because of whatever your personal issues are and ended up making yourself look ... well, no point going there. In the end, you basically agree with exactly what I said. Wasn't that fun? :huh

Have you been in combat; had bullets shot at you; bombs exploding around you?

Ok, no one who hasn't been there will ever understand. No more then someone who has never experienced a Hurricane can understand. One can know someone, friends, family member, etc. with PTSD, but you cannot understand. No more then you would understand what the spouse, and children of a person with PTSD goes through. Especially in the early days, before the help is received, and getting to the manageable level. PTSD never goes away.

The PTSD one experiences from combat is different then other traumatic events.
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/publications/post-traumatic-stress-disorder-ptsd/complete-index.shtml
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/08/110801160229.htm

 

[gog8tors]

Each person who has PTSD will have varying degrees. I don't know what the answer is. I know for some, they just avoid the triggers, and all is well. Others not so much.

I'm thinking we are all in agreement that the PHM would not be appropriate.

 

[ShoeDiva]

And again, it's cute that you presume to know what I have experienced in life. You blew up and over-reacted because of whatever your personal issues are and ended up making yourself look ... well, no point going there. In the end, you basically agree with exactly what I said. Wasn't that fun? :huh

Have you been in combat; had bullets shot at you; bombs exploding around you?

Fox!