California going dark again

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I love it. Wanting to saddle "big power" with the cost of fires are you? Big Power can fix that for ya. LMAO!

PG&E offered to let the state make the call on when to kill power, but that would dump responsibility for the fires on the state too and the Gov, rejected that plan.

Good to see that state dealing with the results of their stupid policies.
 
This guy makes some good points on how the liberals blame *everything* on climate change and how it's funny that *only* California has these fire issues. Makes you wonder exactly what the *Government* isn't doing on preventing fires.

FoxNews

Once again California is burning. We have been here before. Why are we back?

“This is what climate change looks like” tweeted liberal Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez sharing images of a burning state and showing support for her Green New Deal, the vegan-mandating, airplane-eliminating, hundred trillion dollar regressive proposal.

Climate change is the cause, and legislation, putting government in charge of everything, is the answer. For a liberal government is always the answer.Climate change is the perfect villain. It is nameless, faceless, and most of all, it is everywhere. At first the evils of climate change were relegated to the climate meaning blistering heat. But then, so too is the polar vortex blamed on climate change. As is too much snow or a lack of snow. One radical green group The National Resources Defense Council has attributed both droughts and floods to climate change which conveniently covers all bases.

Over time every phenomena in nature from hurricanes to tornados to typhoons to earthquakes were caused or exacerbated by climate change. This was intentional: show how climate change was the problem and thus grow support for the government solution.

But why stop at nature? What if we can show that climate change is the “real” cause of illegal immigration and also the need for greater government-run health care? What if climate change contributes to racism, and misogyny?

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If a mayor or a governor, or even the president, can blame everything on the ethereal and yet omnipotent “climate change” he can quite literally wash his hands of responsibility and justify both lethargy and incompetence. Sure, an administrator could take steps to mitigate California’s fires, but climate change is different. In the months where California was fire-free (roughly mid-December 2018 and mid-May 2019) what did the state do to prevent fires? Nothing. Why? Climate change.

There are a few man-made reasons why California seems to be constantly burning.

First off: it is dry. Not from climate change but from poor water management. Earlier this year the Sierra Nevada snowpack was 202 percent above the average (probably caused by climate change) with ski slopes operating into July. Where did the melt go? It is diverted, and California’s waterways do not run naturally. So much so that a proposal was introduced in 2010 to allow at least 60 percent of the rivers to flow unencumbered. Last year that was reduced to 40 percent, and the policy has still not been implemented. California doesn’t lack water; it lacks flowing water.

California’s forest are ignored, a claim President Trump made with which even Californians agree on. Decades of “green” policies protecting trees and wildlife, good intentions aside, created a tinder box of dead wood and overgrown brush. In some areas, locals are hoping the timber industry can prevent further fires. The private sector to the rescue, yet again.

Prevention goes a long way, and California does have resources. It’s cap-and-trade program, albeit bad economics, annually generates $11 billion with an entire bureaucracy appropriating it to “green” investments. The program has spent over $1 billion in grants for electric cars. Since 2001 it has given over $100 billion in green technology subsidies. Nothing for fire preventing or mitigation strategies.

In a recent press conference, California’s Governor Newsom said “Californians are bearing the brunt of these wildfires” and he’s absolutely right. Neither southern Oregon nor Western Nevada seem to suffer the same pinpointed effects of global climate change as California, which further demonstrates its wounds are largely self-inflicted.

Could climate change be the reason for excessive winds and dry weather? Of course. But when does a governor start governing? When does a leader start leading? It matters little that the governor is “committed to addressing climate change” when he’s not committed to preventing forest fires.

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The people of California should be furious and demanding that heads roll. I feel sure that much of this was preventable had the leadership done their jobs and focus on the real issues instead of all the stupid liberal agenda that seems to mean more to them.
 
This guy makes some good points on how the liberals blame *everything* on climate change and how it's funny that *only* California has these fire issues. Makes you wonder exactly what the *Government* isn't doing on preventing fires.

FoxNews

When I was young, my grandfather would go collect firewood from the forest in the Sierra Nevada Mountains. Most people did. The wood the forestry service allowed citizens to take was from fallen trees. My grandfather would cut up dead dry trees and haul them home. They also collected small kindling pieces. They lived in the Owens Valley about 230 miles north of Los Angeles. From there we could go skiing at Mammoth Mountain Ski Resort. I grew up skiing there, hiking in the forests, and fishing in the lakes and streams.

I think when I was in Junior High, (sometime in the 70's) the state stopped citizens from helping them clear the forest and going to collect the dead wood. My grandfather was quite vocal that the environmental groups of the time had no clue what they were going to cause to happen.

The environmentalists were looking at how nature uses trees to decompose and give areas for nature... but left out the fact dry dead wood where people live is a bad combo, and forest fires are how the environment deals with too much dead brush and trees. A lightning strike or 8 will take care of all the dead stuff and let the forest floor start all over. That is now what is currently happening. Had they continued to allow citizens to use the dead wood from the forests in California, many of the large fires over the years may have been easy to stop early on.

I will go one step further. The article shows snow pack 202% of normal last year... we are still told to conserve water. I moved back to California and the change in what plants are left here in the yards and the community, from no one watering their yards, is horrifying. The proper use of water has not been allowed, so everyone's yard has parched half dead trees and no ground cover but weeds. Many have fake astro turf grass in their front yards. There are many trees dead at the top from years of no one watering them.

San Diego is high dessert with annual rain something like 9 inches. Plants only grow where you water them. So maybe the wacko environmentalists are correct we are in a dessert, why have a yard or garden... then why have air conditioning... glasses to read with...light. If we want to live like animals in only the environment as it starts, they can live like that...I chose not to.

I will welcome when common sense returns to mankind.
 
Yeah, the bad part is that the bunch that elected the majority of that government live in the cities... where there is no fire danger, so the lights stay on.

It's the conservatives out in the country that are getting screwed 7 ways to Friday.
 
Yeah, the bad part is that the bunch that elected the majority of that government live in the cities... where there is no fire danger, so the lights stay on.

It's the conservatives out in the country that are getting screwed 7 ways to Friday.
A lot of what is being burned now is extremely liberal territory. Expect some return to reality soon, but they will still blame everything on PG&E and global warming instead of gross mismanagement by the bureaucrats at the beck and call of the faux environmentalists.
 
A lot of what is being burned now is extremely liberal territory. Expect some return to reality soon, but they will still blame everything on PG&E and global warming instead of gross mismanagement by the bureaucrats at the beck and call of the faux environmentalists.


No, worse...the Governor, who was the Mayor who gave us shit in the streets of San Francisco, is salivating/threatening to take over Pacific Gas & Electric, PG&E.


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Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-Calif.) threatened Friday that the state of California could take over the Pacific Gas and Electric utility company if it does not pull itself out of bankruptcy by mid-2020.

"PG&E as we know it may or may not be able to figure this out. If they cannot, we are not going to sit around and be passive," Newsom said at a press conference. "If Pacific Gas and Electric is unable to secure its own fate and future ... then the state will prepare itself as backup for a scenario where we do that job for them."

PG&E has recently come under intense scrutiny for cutting power to thousands of people as it tries to prevent wildfires. The company filed for bankruptcy in January while it was facing billions of dollars in claims tied to deadly fires.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...f-pge-doesnt-get-itself-out-of-bankruptcy-the
 
A lot of what is being burned now is extremely liberal territory. Expect some return to reality soon, but they will still blame everything on PG&E and global warming instead of gross mismanagement by the bureaucrats at the beck and call of the faux environmentalists.
The elected Democrats will continue to blame PG&E and "global warming," but I think a lot more of those who vote will begin to blame their state government as well. Just think what the cost for consumers will be if the state takes over PG&E. A takeover will not reduce the forest fires the state is having. Not all of them are started by utility lines. A huge problem with forest fires is the state has stopped clearing out the underbrush in their forests. When lightening strikes, voila forest fire. The state is spending all those tax dollars they collect on social welfare programs for illegals.
 
Like government can run it?

More tax increases coming.
That's what I'm saying. Let's face the facts; voters who work for their income will only take this crap from the state government so far. California is already experiencing a lot of people moving out of the state and a lot of those are Democratic voters. I have two sisters who live in the Phoenix area. They both have been there for more than 20 years and they say they have seen an increase in support for Democratic candidates there because of those relocating to the state from California. One would think that if a person moved to another state because taxes were too high where they came from, they would support candidates from a political party who advocate for lower taxes. Just goes to show Democrats support Einstein's theory that insanity is doing the same thing over and over, each time expecting a different result.
 
No, worse...the Governor, who was the Mayor who gave us shit in the streets of San Francisco, is salivating/threatening to take over Pacific Gas & Electric, PG&E.


ca_gavinnewsom_102719_getty_1.jpg

© Getty
Gov. Gavin Newsom (D-Calif.) threatened Friday that the state of California could take over the Pacific Gas and Electric utility company if it does not pull itself out of bankruptcy by mid-2020.

"PG&E as we know it may or may not be able to figure this out. If they cannot, we are not going to sit around and be passive," Newsom said at a press conference. "If Pacific Gas and Electric is unable to secure its own fate and future ... then the state will prepare itself as backup for a scenario where we do that job for them."

PG&E has recently come under intense scrutiny for cutting power to thousands of people as it tries to prevent wildfires. The company filed for bankruptcy in January while it was facing billions of dollars in claims tied to deadly fires.

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-...f-pge-doesnt-get-itself-out-of-bankruptcy-the
People don't think that PG&E has the option to walk away. That is always an option during bankruptcy. Sometimes a board will look around, put their collective finger in the air, and decide to walk away. I honestly know of no special rules that apply to a regulated utility, but then it is California.

It just seems to me that they will not be allowed to run their business in a manner that will serve their customers and provide value for their investors. Sometimes decisions are made for you.
 
People don't think that PG&E has the option to walk away. That is always an option during bankruptcy. Sometimes a board will look around, put their collective finger in the air, and decide to walk away. I honestly know of no special rules that apply to a regulated utility, but then it is California.

It just seems to me that they will not be allowed to run their business in a manner that will serve their customers and provide value for their investors. Sometimes decisions are made for you.
I wondered about that...how much the government has to do with their economic woes.
 
I would tell CA they could have it...along with all the pending liability.
 
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