Yet another shooting in Paris and an observation

Grey Colson

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Just before I walked into the building I heard of yet another shooting and hostage taking in Paris. The terrorist reportedly stated, "You know who I am," leading people to believe he was the third terrorist who executed a female LEO a day or so ago.

While watching coverage of the other 2 vermin who are hold up in the print company building, it was impossible not to notice the size of the building they were in with a lone hostage. On the other hand I was almost shocked to hear that over 1,200 officers were on scene. It made me remember one of the topics in Incident Command training which was about using good judgement when assigning personnel and equipment during critical and/or high profile incidents. Of course I'm not on scene, but LEO's are similar no matter who they are or where they serve.

The thinking is, "I have to be there to help" and sometimes, "I want to be involved in this historic event". The reason I bring it up is because I believe 1,200 officers on scene is a little over kill and ill advised. From what I could see, even 300 would be plenty. A SWAT team and plenty of officers for the inner and outer perimeter.

And then this other incident occurs...

They were saying all morning that the 2 turds in the building did not need a hostage in order to "die as a martyr" as they have stated. The analysts are absolutely correct, but they couldn't offer and explanation as to WHY they were holding the hostage and delaying the inevitable, especially since they have scambled all communications at the location and the turds can't make a dying declaration :dunno

In my opinion, now we have a pretty good idea. Have the cops drag a majority of their personnel and resources to one location so another attack can take place. The people and leadership of France probably already regret allowing the muslums to have "No Go" zones where these roaches can congregate, train and grow in numbers right under their noses. Insanity!
 
Grey Colson said:
Just before I walked into the building I heard of yet another shooting and hostage taking in Paris. The terrorist reportedly stated, "You know who I am," leading people to believe he was the third terrorist who executed a female LEO a day or so ago.

While watching coverage of the other 2 vermin who are hold up in the print company building, it was impossible not to notice the size of the building they were in with a lone hostage. On the other hand I was almost shocked to hear that over 1,200 officers were on scene. It made me remember one of the topics in Incident Command training which was about using good judgement when assigning personnel and equipment during critical and/or high profile incidents. Of course I'm not on scene, but LEO's are similar no matter who they are or where they serve.

The thinking is, "I have to be there to help" and sometimes, "I want to be involved in this historic event". The reason I bring it up is because I believe 1,200 officers on scene is a little over kill and ill advised. From what I could see, even 300 would be plenty. A SWAT team and plenty of officers for the inner and outer perimeter.

And then this other incident occurs...

They were saying all morning that the 2 turds in the building did not need a hostage in order to "die as a martyr" as they have stated. The analysts are absolutely correct, but they couldn't offer and explanation as to WHY they were holding the hostage and delaying the inevitable, especially since they have scambled all communications at the location and the turds can't make a dying declaration :dunno

In my opinion, now we have a pretty good idea. Have the cops drag a majority of their personnel and resources to one location so another attack can take place. The people and leadership of France probably already regret allowing the muslums to have "No Go" zones where these roaches can congregate, train and grow in numbers right under their noses. Insanity!
Yeah, listening to it now on the news. Agree that it's an excess amount of resources for one scene, now the flanks are open, doesn't taking much of a military mind to figure that one out. Hopefully LE will speed up the process of the little turds meeting their maker.
 
J-man said:
Grey Colson said:
Just before I walked into the building I heard of yet another shooting and hostage taking in Paris. The terrorist reportedly stated, "You know who I am," leading people to believe he was the third terrorist who executed a female LEO a day or so ago.

While watching coverage of the other 2 vermin who are hold up in the print company building, it was impossible not to notice the size of the building they were in with a lone hostage. On the other hand I was almost shocked to hear that over 1,200 officers were on scene. It made me remember one of the topics in Incident Command training which was about using good judgement when assigning personnel and equipment during critical and/or high profile incidents. Of course I'm not on scene, but LEO's are similar no matter who they are or where they serve.

The thinking is, "I have to be there to help" and sometimes, "I want to be involved in this historic event". The reason I bring it up is because I believe 1,200 officers on scene is a little over kill and ill advised. From what I could see, even 300 would be plenty. A SWAT team and plenty of officers for the inner and outer perimeter.

And then this other incident occurs...

They were saying all morning that the 2 turds in the building did not need a hostage in order to "die as a martyr" as they have stated. The analysts are absolutely correct, but they couldn't offer and explanation as to WHY they were holding the hostage and delaying the inevitable, especially since they have scambled all communications at the location and the turds can't make a dying declaration :dunno

In my opinion, now we have a pretty good idea. Have the cops drag a majority of their personnel and resources to one location so another attack can take place. The people and leadership of France probably already regret allowing the muslums to have "No Go" zones where these roaches can congregate, train and grow in numbers right under their noses. Insanity!
Yeah, listening to it now on the news. Agree that it's an excess amount of resources for one scene, now the flanks are open, doesn't taking much of a military mind to figure that one out. Hopefully LE will speed up the process of the little turds meeting their maker.

Again, I'm not on scene, but they'll need to make a move today. Where you gonna get another 1,200 officers to relieve them on the next shift? :dunno
 
I didn't hear any reports about the number of police officers on the scene, but I'm wondering if France's police departments are different from ours - I heard something about "national police" today at lunch. That doesn't justify 1200 officers, but that number might have been exaggerated.
 
LisaC said:
I didn't hear any reports about the number of police officers on the scene, but I'm wondering if France's police departments are different from ours - I heard something about "national police" today at lunch. That doesn't justify 1200 officers, but that number might have been exaggerated.

Surely the media wouldn't do that ::)
 
Grey Colson said:
LisaC said:
I didn't hear any reports about the number of police officers on the scene, but I'm wondering if France's police departments are different from ours - I heard something about "national police" today at lunch. That doesn't justify 1200 officers, but that number might have been exaggerated.

Surely the media wouldn't do that ::)

They never do. :whistle
 
It was reported last night that over 10,000 LEO's AND military special forces were involved in this manhunt.

Keep in mind that most of the law enforcement in France are not armed or have firearm's training.
 
Winchester said:
It was reported last night that over 10,000 LEO's AND military special forces were involved in this manhunt.

Keep in mind that most of the law enforcement in France are not armed or have firearm's training.

I'm thinking you didn't put in an application with them :eek: :laugh
 
Grey Colson said:
Winchester said:
It was reported last night that over 10,000 LEO's AND military special forces were involved in this manhunt.

Keep in mind that most of the law enforcement in France are not armed or have firearm's training.

I'm thinking you didn't put in an application with them :eek: :laugh

Naw, I passed. Too far to commute every day.
 
Reminds me a little of Boston. Overkill to the max. Rationally how many officers and guns does it take to catch one or two bad guys? It's particularly astounding here where they knew exactly where they were.
 
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