Would we tolerate Archie Bunker today??

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With the death of Sherman Hemsley today I was thinking about All in the Family, the Archie Bunker show. He was truly a bigot but loved by many. Some of the stuff he said was extremely racist and horrible, even for the time. I don't think a show like that would last 10 minutes on the air today. What say you??
 
Oh heck to the NO. Too many PC waaa waaaa people out there. He was sexist too.
Hey hey was an equal opportunity hater. :laugh :laugh
 
Oh, the way Glenn Miller played / Songs that made the Hit Parade / Guys like us we had it made.
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then / Girls were girls and men were men / Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state / Everybody pulled his weight / Gee our ol' La Salle ran great.
Those were the days.

I typed that from memory. :))
 
People don't like to be offended. They're trained that to be offended means something is bad. It's a lot easier to be offended than it is to actually think or recognize something in ourselves we might not like, or which might challenge us. Far easier to scream that something is offensive.

This thread got me thinking of something awkward that happened during the rodeo here. An angus bull was next to be ridden and the announcer said something to the effect of, "This one's called Obama..." and then awkward pause while he realized what he'd actually said, and he says in a totally different tone, "well, you figure out why." Awkward silence in the stands, and then some redneck screams, "Yeah, you monkey!"

While I have no respect for the redneck, he illustrates that racism is still real, and very blatant. It's much easier to squawk offense at something on TV or something minor like a lack of certain racial minorities on TV than it is to turn to the idiot redneck and tell him off. I'll freely admit I didn't say anything to him either, and he was really close to me. Probably cowardice or too nice. It's much easier to talk about him here.

The same redneck was there on Sunday during the last day of the rodeo and asked me if I was taking pictures of cowboys in tight jeans. (For those who can't tell, he was casting aspersions upon my sexual orientation.) There was a part of me tempted to say, "Yes" just to make him angry. Instead, I just said I was working for the paper. Again, a weak (though truthful) response.

At the same time, look what we tolerate now that would not have been tolerated in the days of Archie Bunker: sex is much more explicit in movies and TV, and a lot more violence. We are more likely to tolerate a portrayal of a homosexual, even a positive portrayal. Anyone who has ever seen the movie Advise and Consent knows how the portrayal of that group used to be.

I won't say that these are all good developments, but remember that, at one time, an interracial kiss between two characters on Star Trek was pretty shocking stuff. Our culture continues to change, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. Archie Bunker was a product of its time. So was Leave it to Beaver. Neither program would be produced today. But, current shows would not have been produced then.
 
But, Archie didn't hide behind any facade and he didn't care who knew who he was. While I may not like the person, I would respect him more than some of the current pretenders.
 
We live in the land of the easily offended. But not offended when Christians are made light of or mocked, or when female, conservative politicians are called slu*s.

It's being selectively offended that offends me :tapfoot2

No, Archie probably wonldn't survive today. There's no room for him among the MTV psycho, teen pregnant shows, "Cheaters", and Jerry Springer Dysfunction Junction audience. They are obviously too HIGH CLASS for such an offensive show ::)

Me, I'd vote him President! Go Archie! 8)
 
Genevieve said:
Oh, the way Glenn Miller played / Songs that made the Hit Parade / Guys like us we had it made.
Those were the days.

And you knew who you were then / Girls were girls and men were men / Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.

Didn't need no welfare state / Everybody pulled his weight / Gee our ol' La Salle ran great.
Those were the days.

I typed that from memory. :))

I can see them sitting at the piano while I sing along to your script. wonderful memories. :love

I loved him and his honestly. Yes, he was an equal opportunity hater. Edith's looks were priceless when he said those things. I remember when they killed her off as clear as it was that night. Him holding her house shoe .....
 
Madea said:
But, Archie didn't hide behind any facade and he didn't care who knew who he was. While I may not like the person, I would respect him more than some of the current pretenders.
Exactly!! We've become a society full of political correctness.
 
Archie's character was brilliant! Yes, he was a bigot; but his character was a nice guy who's bigotry was based mostly in ignorance.
 
Unfortunately it would not last in todays ultra sensitive, I'm gonna sue your butt because you said the word retard society. Archie was friggin hilarious with his racist remarks but so was George Jefferson with his "Shut up honkey"esque remarks. I loved Richard Pryor just as much I loved George Carlin but we are a society of sissies. Welcome to the pussification of America. I say in the next 20 years those fag Frogs in France will overun our country and we will blend in easily as a country of girly men.
 
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