Drums and Guitars in Church

deewee said:
ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
LisaC said:
You know, several of our senior members of our church don't like drums and guitars during worship. To them, worship means something different and I don't think that makes them closed minded - I think it just means that they have a different view. And, I'm good with that's since God made each of us to be different (and some of y'all take "different" to a whole new level). :whistle

I went by the comment the person made, as posted by GD, to determine that this was a closed minded individual, or maybe I should have said judgemental?

"drums, guitars, and professional singers...I would leave and never come back"

I do not see it as either. If I attend a service that had those, again my preference, would be not to attend again. It is not how I want to worship, but it could be, and obviously is for others. Maybe he should not (he shouldn't have) put that on a video that someone posted on face book, but I do not think the opinion makes him wrong, close minded, or judgmental. It is his opinion on worship. We all seem to have them. :))
The wording used is what I am going by, as that is all that I know about the person, and the wording was rather harsh. I'm not saying he's wrong in his preference. I am saying he was being closed minded about the musical instruments. And he was, according to his comment.

According to his comment (which as I stated he shouldn't have said it on someones page) he does not like drums and professional singers and would not be back. Can he not have that opinion? I am thinking that like other things, if the opinion is not of the same as the person reading it, it is wrong, close minded or judgmental. I am not saying I have also not said, claimed, or done that, but again, you can not make the call he is close minded by not going back to a place or that he does not believe you can worship with drums. I never said that either, but I do not want to worship with them. (though I know others like to and I am sure that guy knows that too)
 
ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
ShoeDiva said:
deewee said:
LisaC said:
You know, several of our senior members of our church don't like drums and guitars during worship. To them, worship means something different and I don't think that makes them closed minded - I think it just means that they have a different view. And, I'm good with that's since God made each of us to be different (and some of y'all take "different" to a whole new level). :whistle

I went by the comment the person made, as posted by GD, to determine that this was a closed minded individual, or maybe I should have said judgemental?

"drums, guitars, and professional singers...I would leave and never come back"

I do not see it as either. If I attend a service that had those, again my preference, would be not to attend again. It is not how I want to worship, but it could be, and obviously is for others. Maybe he should not (he shouldn't have) put that on a video that someone posted on face book, but I do not think the opinion makes him wrong, close minded, or judgmental. It is his opinion on worship. We all seem to have them. :))
The wording used is what I am going by, as that is all that I know about the person, and the wording was rather harsh. I'm not saying he's wrong in his preference. I am saying he was being closed minded about the musical instruments. And he was, according to his comment.

According to his comment (which as I stated he shouldn't have said it on someones page) he does not like drums and professional singers and would not be back. Can he not have that opinion? I am thinking that like other things, if the opinion is not of the same as the person reading it, it is wrong, close minded or judgmental. I am not saying I have also not said, claimed, or done that, but again, you can not make the call he is close minded by not going back to a place or that he does not believe you can worship with drums. I never said that either, but I do not want to worship with them. (though I know others like to and I am sure that guy knows that too)
It is the impression he left, of himself, by how he proclaimed his view.

As far as I am personally concerned about music in a church (as long as the music isn't GD and his butt flute) it's all good to me...so long as God is glorified. :)
 
I saw your video... I love the people but not the song... Well 3 out of the 4. I didn't know the dude by GC.

quartettes like that just don't do nothing for me ...not my thing
 
Blazing Saddles said:
well I guess that guy will never hear little drummer boy in his church.

You can sing the song without a drum... :whistle
 
After wrestling with being unable to find a church where I felt truly comfortable, and basing that decision primarily on the music, it came to me that the music portion of the service is the worship portion of the service. And I concluded that I wasn't bad because my worship style remained more traditional, it was just my preference and where I felt most comfortable.

You may disagree with how he worded the comment, but it's obviously not his style.
 
deewee said:
It is the impression he left, of himself, by how he proclaimed his view.

As far as I am personally concerned about music in a church (as long as the music isn't GD and his butt flute) it's all good to me...so long as God is glorified. :)

Amen
 
Bring in the drums and guitars, next thing you know they'll be bringing in the rattlesnakes. :laugh
 
Blazing Saddles said:
well I guess that guy will never hear little drummer boy in his church.

Shocker :eek: , but I have heard LDB with drums in a Catholic church. :)) It was special and moving. I think because it is "out of the norm" for us it did make it more of an impact to hear it done.
 
Madea said:
After wrestling with being unable to find a church where I felt truly comfortable, and basing that decision primarily on the music, it came to me that the music portion of the service is the worship portion of the service. And I concluded that I wasn't bad because my worship style remained more traditional, it was just my preference and where I felt most comfortable.

You may disagree with how he worded the comment, but it's obviously not his style.

I agree.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Blazing Saddles said:
well I guess that guy will never hear little drummer boy in his church.

Shocker :eek: , but I have heard LDB with drums in a Catholic church. :)) It was special and moving. I think because it is "out of the norm" for us it did make it more of an impact to hear it done.
wow. That's cool too hear.
 
Blazing Saddles said:
ShoeDiva said:
Blazing Saddles said:
well I guess that guy will never hear little drummer boy in his church.

Shocker :eek: , but I have heard LDB with drums in a Catholic church. :)) It was special and moving. I think because it is "out of the norm" for us it did make it more of an impact to hear it done.
wow. That's cool too hear.

:thumbsup

I wish they would do it every year. I am not sure if you have been to a Catholic service (I think I remember you have, but not sure) but you can hear a pin drop most times. To hear the drums in that song against the silence...it really is wow.
I will have to ask my husband, he knows these things, but there was another song played last year on an instrument that I am not familiar with that was also very striking. (yet I forget what song...I am Christmas brained right now, sorry)
 
I will have to go back and read all the posts, don't feel quit up to it yet, but here is what I told my mother about church and music.

Me: I don't believe in church's having bands during service.
Mother: Our church doesn't have a band!
Me: Awww, come on. Who are you trying to kid.
Mother: We don't! All we have is a piano, a guitar and some drums.
Me: Mama, I have seen bars that had less instruments and the sign out front said "Come hear our band".
Mother: You don't know what you are talking about.

In all seriousness, it all has to do with how you grew up, what you are used to and how open minded you are.
As I am sure has been said, I doubt that God is counting how many and what type instruments are being played in church.
 
If it's true to the Gospel and lifts up God's name; it's good. Beyond that it has to do with personal preference. While I would likely stay with what I'm used to if I was looking for a church home; I would not "never go back" to a church just because of their style of worship or the type of music/instrumentation they have. I have enjoyed many spirit-filled services in churches that do things differently.

That's what bothered me about his comment. I can totally understand not enjoying a certain type of music; I'm not big on contemporary. But I don't take my marbles and go home if a contemporary song is played. His comment made me think that he believes guitars and drums to somehow be contrary to The Gospel, and I cannot agree with such thinking.
 
Guard Dad said:
If it's true to the Gospel and lifts up God's name; it's good. Beyond that it has to do with personal preference. While I would likely stay with what I'm used to if I was looking for a church home; I would not "never go back" to a church just because of their style of worship or the type of music/instrumentation they have. I have enjoyed many spirit-filled services in churches that do things differently.

That's what bothered me about his comment. I can totally understand not enjoying a certain type of music; I'm not big on contemporary. But I don't take my marbles and go home if a contemporary song is played. His comment made me think that he believes guitars and drums to somehow be contrary to The Gospel, and I cannot agree with such thinking.

I think you just took it personal, which I totally understand..it was your page and you singing with that type of music. (I would have just deleted his comment, not MY video) I do not think it is contrary to The Gospel, but I can relate with saying, "Yeah, not going back there." because I would not be comfortable with that because of my background. (A special performance or visiting is different. I expect out of my ordinary) I would hope I would have more tack than to write that under someones video, but knowing the guy do you think he really believes that it is against The Gospel or that it is just something he personally is not comfortable with and just did not eloquently state that?
 
To GD's point, he has an opinion - of course it would be open to interpretation what he meant by "drums, guitars, and professional singers...I would leave and never come back." Ask him if a choir counts? Young persons chorus. Hand bells? Pipe organ?

I think it is a personal choice, as to where one "draws the line." I appreciate having different services to attend - in that one may have the drums, guitars, etc. And another would have a more "sedate" musical accompaniment.

Bottom line, for me, if I am there to worship and the music does not detract = then no problem. If it aids in getting me closer to God, then bring it on! If I sit there wondering when can I leave ....

FWIW, Mrs. Mac and I attend two churches. We alternate between a Catholic (me) and Methodist (her). The Methodist has the service with guitars, drums, etc. - which we typically do not attend. The Methodist service we attend has an amazing choir (both adult and youth), with an incredible pipe organ (donated by Minnie Perl I believe), and occasional hand bells. The Catholic church has guitars, and a small electric organ. And it all works for me.
 
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
If it's true to the Gospel and lifts up God's name; it's good. Beyond that it has to do with personal preference. While I would likely stay with what I'm used to if I was looking for a church home; I would not "never go back" to a church just because of their style of worship or the type of music/instrumentation they have. I have enjoyed many spirit-filled services in churches that do things differently.

That's what bothered me about his comment. I can totally understand not enjoying a certain type of music; I'm not big on contemporary. But I don't take my marbles and go home if a contemporary song is played. His comment made me think that he believes guitars and drums to somehow be contrary to The Gospel, and I cannot agree with such thinking.

I think you just took it personal, which I totally understand..it was your page and you singing with that type of music. (I would have just deleted his comment, not MY video) I do not think it is contrary to The Gospel, but I can relate with saying, "Yeah, not going back there." because I would not be comfortable with that because of my background. (A special performance or visiting is different. I expect out of my ordinary) I would hope I would have more tack than to write that under someones video, but knowing the guy do you think he really believes that it is against The Gospel or that it is just something he personally is not comfortable with and just did not eloquently state that?

I wasn't upset over it at all. Just thought it was odd, and perhaps a little extreme.
 
Guard Dad said:
ShoeDiva said:
Guard Dad said:
If it's true to the Gospel and lifts up God's name; it's good. Beyond that it has to do with personal preference. While I would likely stay with what I'm used to if I was looking for a church home; I would not "never go back" to a church just because of their style of worship or the type of music/instrumentation they have. I have enjoyed many spirit-filled services in churches that do things differently.

That's what bothered me about his comment. I can totally understand not enjoying a certain type of music; I'm not big on contemporary. But I don't take my marbles and go home if a contemporary song is played. His comment made me think that he believes guitars and drums to somehow be contrary to The Gospel, and I cannot agree with such thinking.

I think you just took it personal, which I totally understand..it was your page and you singing with that type of music. (I would have just deleted his comment, not MY video) I do not think it is contrary to The Gospel, but I can relate with saying, "Yeah, not going back there." because I would not be comfortable with that because of my background. (A special performance or visiting is different. I expect out of my ordinary) I would hope I would have more tack than to write that under someones video, but knowing the guy do you think he really believes that it is against The Gospel or that it is just something he personally is not comfortable with and just did not eloquently state that?

I wasn't upset over it at all. Just thought it was odd, and perhaps a little extreme.

Well it is a friend of yours... :whistle


:)) I just really wanted to put out there that while maybe he did mean it badly it just could have been like me, just do not like it as a church preference. I have seen, read, and heard many ugly things among friends this Christmas season and I am truly bothered by that, and did not want you to be in one of those situations if you had not thought about it from a different perspective. :) I am glad you were not upset by it.
 
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