does this make me a bad person?

[mei lan]

I read a lot of books, both fiction and non. Thus, I run across a lot of different kinds of characters. Rarely do I find a character I cannot empathize with or like in the least...generally, if they're stupid, then they learn from it and later do unstupid things, etc. Or maybe they're a bad person, but they have a soft heart for animals, or something. IDK.

So anyhoo, I was reading this suspense book the other day...I've even forgotten the name, so I can't tell you what to avoid. (I'm TERRIBLE at keeping track of names of books.) Anyhoo, this girl was maybe 35 and married, but not happily. Her husband was extremely jealous, and their marriage just had all sorts of problems that she refused to address. She was some sort of high-powered business consultant, if memory serves, and he was manager of a night club, so their hours were totally opposite. Which countless couples have done just fine with...just an observation. She also came from a prominent family in the area, which he always had a hard time with. So anyhoo, this dude comes to one of her seminars and starts stalking her, but she's so stupid she doesn't realize it. As in, she's so stupid she doesn't realize him showing up everywhere and offering her expensive gifts and cajoling her to staying to dinner and drugging her drink so she spends the night with him unwillingly are bad things. Or rather, she does realize it, but ignores it. She doesn't tell her husband about any of this because she doesn't want to set him off. Her best friend is extremely creeped out, to the point of being apoplectic that she tell her husband and go to the police, but no. OK, cut to the end (and trust me, be glad I am)...he kidnaps her best friend and murders her to get her out of the way. Then he kidnaps her and murders her husband (who has found out about the stalker by this time and doesn't believe he's a stalker but believes him to be her lover). She finally gets away from the stalker at the end of the book (by which time I was skipping entire pages because I was so irritated, so I don't remember details), and doesn't show any more progress in leaving her stupidity behind than she had at the beginning of the book. Book was well-written, but besides her incredible stupidity, there were several plot holes, like her being from an affluent family and close to her father, but getting sucked in by this dilbert, and she didn't go to her father for help at all, blah blah blah.

I hated her. By the end of the book, I was rooting for the stalker to kill her. I know that makes me a bad person. But at least she wasn't real.

 

[stradial]

Heck I didn't even read the book and I was hoping they all died.

 

[J-man]

Kill them all, they must be evil. If they're not, well, it just means more bacon for everyone else.

 

[ShoeDiva]

What book?

 

[honeybunny]

I just started a book about Mt Everest yesterday ("Dark Summit")
and so far I hate everyone on that mountain including the sherpas.

 

[Grey Colson]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

 

[ShoeDiva]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

Really? Reacher's Rules.

 

[mei lan]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her.

Deal! Her name was Hailey. SD, I looked back in my Kindle records, and the book is Wanton Regard. tui:

 

[deewee]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

) ) ) ) ) ) ) ) )

 

[ShoeDiva]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her.

Deal! Her name was Hailey. SD, I looked back in my Kindle records, and the book is Wanton Regard. tui:

Thanks. I looked it up and it has good reviews, with it being a psychological thriller it is one that normally I would pick to read. You have saved me time and annoyance with a character. :thumbsup

 

[Grey Colson]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

Really? Reacher's Rules.

He does and usually I'll be reading right along and somewhere in the book I'll see some type of reference to the title. Even if it's vague.
It was the typical Reacher novel.

Reacher is just trying to do his own thing with his tooth brush and debit card.
He runs across a situation or a person (female) that is in some type of trouble and he becomes involved.
He has to beat some dude(s) a$$ initially in order for the rest of the bad guys to come after him.
He ends up in a hotel with the female he's trying to assist and has carnal knowledge of her.
He does his investigation and finds out a little more.
He'll have to beat another few a$$es just for good measure and to reduce the number of bad guys after him.
He makes a stop at the Goodwill and ditches his old clothes for slightly used clothes since these stink after the first two confrontations and a$$ beatings.
He finally figures out the scoop and systematically kills the remaining bad guy(s)
He leaves the female who by the way, gives him no trouble at all and fully understands, and moves on to the next little town where we start all over again.

GOOD STUFF! :laugh :laugh :laugh

 

[ShoeDiva]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

Really? Reacher's Rules.

He does and usually I'll be reading right along and somewhere in the book I'll see some type of reference to the title. Even if it's vague.
It was the typical Reacher novel.

Reacher is just trying to do his own thing with his tooth brush and debit card.
He runs across a situation or a person (female) that is in some type of trouble and he becomes involved.
He has to beat some dude(s) a$$ initially in order for the rest of the bad guys to come after him.
He ends up in a hotel with the female he's trying to assist and has carnal knowledge of her.
He does his investigation and finds out a little more.
He'll have to beat another few a$$es just for good measure and to reduce the number of bad guys after him.
He makes a stop at the Goodwill and ditches his old clothes for slightly used clothes since these stink after the first two confrontations and a$$ beatings.
He finally figures out the scoop and systematically kills the remaining bad guy(s)
He leaves the female who by the way, gives him no trouble at all and fully understands, and moves on to the next little town where we start all over again.

GOOD STUFF! :laugh :laugh :laugh

Really? was because you of all people should know. :Stick


This book title is based on Reacher's rule; If you want me to stop, you are going to have to make me. The towns people suggest that he leave, the novel name is based on his rule of not stopping and you are not bad :neenerbutt enough to make me stop.
This was a dark novel and does not clue people in to what it is about, which for some could be a real issue. His writing style also changed with this novel. Some parts reminded me of old Reacher and others of Reacher that Child was just trying to get out a book to make a deadline. I did not hate nor love this book, but would not recommend it to those that already are not a Reacher fan.
Oh, and to your last point, did it not seem as if he was too involved with her? Not like the normal Jack.

 

[Grey Colson]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

Really? Reacher's Rules.

He does and usually I'll be reading right along and somewhere in the book I'll see some type of reference to the title. Even if it's vague.
It was the typical Reacher novel.

Reacher is just trying to do his own thing with his tooth brush and debit card.
He runs across a situation or a person (female) that is in some type of trouble and he becomes involved.
He has to beat some dude(s) a$$ initially in order for the rest of the bad guys to come after him.
He ends up in a hotel with the female he's trying to assist and has carnal knowledge of her.
He does his investigation and finds out a little more.
He'll have to beat another few a$$es just for good measure and to reduce the number of bad guys after him.
He makes a stop at the Goodwill and ditches his old clothes for slightly used clothes since these stink after the first two confrontations and a$$ beatings.
He finally figures out the scoop and systematically kills the remaining bad guy(s)
He leaves the female who by the way, gives him no trouble at all and fully understands, and moves on to the next little town where we start all over again.

GOOD STUFF! :laugh :laugh :laugh

Really? was because you of all people should know. :Stick


This book title is based on Reacher's rule; If you want me to stop, you are going to have to make me. The towns people suggest that he leave, the novel name is based on his rule of not stopping and you are not bad :neenerbutt enough to make me stop.
This was a dark novel and does not clue people in to what it is about, which for some could be a real issue. His writing style also changed with this novel. Some parts reminded me of old Reacher and others of Reacher that Child was just trying to get out a book to make a deadline. I did not hate nor love this book, but would not recommend it to those that already are not a Reacher fan.
Oh, and to your last point, did it not seem as if he was too involved with her? Not like the normal Jack.

It didn't seem to me like he was into the female any more or less than previous ones. I'm sure I'm not as avid a fan as you are, but I still have a shelf in the man cave with the majority of his hardback books. I just don't recall in which book he proclaims his "rule", but the explanation does help solve the title mystery for me. I've always liked Child's writing. Thankfully for all readers, there are many ways to "skin a cat" or "tell a story"

As a teenager, my favorite police TV series was Colombo. Think about how all those stories were told. At the beginning of every episode, you knew who the bad guy/girl was. You knew who committed the crime. There was no mystery about whether or not is was the butler with a candlestick in the library. The story was the cunning methods of Colombo, his presumed stupidity and investigative talent to expose the criminal in the end and arrest them.

I like many methods of telling a story, including the Colombo version. I try to mix it up a little.

Code 1 - You knew the bad guy and his business.
Code 2 - You knew the bad guy and suspected what his business was.
Code 3 - You will know some of the players, but not the main one and will not know what they are up to until the end.

I say "you" in general terms of who will actually read them, not "you" personally.

 

[deewee]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

Really? Reacher's Rules.

He does and usually I'll be reading right along and somewhere in the book I'll see some type of reference to the title. Even if it's vague.
It was the typical Reacher novel.

Reacher is just trying to do his own thing with his tooth brush and debit card.
He runs across a situation or a person (female) that is in some type of trouble and he becomes involved.
He has to beat some dude(s) a$$ initially in order for the rest of the bad guys to come after him.
He ends up in a hotel with the female he's trying to assist and has carnal knowledge of her.
He does his investigation and finds out a little more.
He'll have to beat another few a$$es just for good measure and to reduce the number of bad guys after him.
He makes a stop at the Goodwill and ditches his old clothes for slightly used clothes since these stink after the first two confrontations and a$$ beatings.
He finally figures out the scoop and systematically kills the remaining bad guy(s)
He leaves the female who by the way, gives him no trouble at all and fully understands, and moves on to the next little town where we start all over again.

GOOD STUFF! :laugh :laugh :laugh

Really? was because you of all people should know. :Stick


This book title is based on Reacher's rule; If you want me to stop, you are going to have to make me. The towns people suggest that he leave, the novel name is based on his rule of not stopping and you are not bad :neenerbutt enough to make me stop.
This was a dark novel and does not clue people in to what it is about, which for some could be a real issue. His writing style also changed with this novel. Some parts reminded me of old Reacher and others of Reacher that Child was just trying to get out a book to make a deadline. I did not hate nor love this book, but would not recommend it to those that already are not a Reacher fan.
Oh, and to your last point, did it not seem as if he was too involved with her? Not like the normal Jack.

It didn't seem to me like he was into the female any more or less than previous ones. I'm sure I'm not as avid a fan as you are, but I still have a shelf in the man cave with the majority of his hardback books. I just don't recall in which book he proclaims his "rule", but the explanation does help solve the title mystery for me. I've always liked Child's writing. Thankfully for all readers, there are many ways to "skin a cat" or "tell a story"

As a teenager, my favorite police TV series was Colombo. Think about how all those stories were told. At the beginning of every episode, you knew who the bad guy/girl was. You knew who committed the crime. There was no mystery about whether or not is was the butler with a candlestick in the library. The story was the cunning methods of Colombo, his presumed stupidity and investigative talent to expose the criminal in the end and arrest them.

I like many methods of telling a story, including the Colombo version. I try to mix it up a little.

Code 1 - You knew the bad guy and his business.
Code 2 - You knew the bad guy and suspected what his business was.
Code 3 - You will know some of the players, but not the main one and will not know what they are up to until the end.

I say "you" in general terms of who will actually read them, not "you" personally.

That's gonna kill me, ya know. I have to know, and will spend the entire book picking out clues until I'm convinced I know! Then if I'm wrong, I'll kick myself for not seeing it!

 

[Grey Colson]

If you'd like, I'll write her into the 3rd book and kill the crap out of her. I just finished a pretty good Jack Reacher novel (not my favorite, but good) titled, "Make Me."

Usually I can tie the title into the book somewhere, but this one....I have no idea how he came up with, "Make Me." N

Really? Reacher's Rules.

He does and usually I'll be reading right along and somewhere in the book I'll see some type of reference to the title. Even if it's vague.
It was the typical Reacher novel.

Reacher is just trying to do his own thing with his tooth brush and debit card.
He runs across a situation or a person (female) that is in some type of trouble and he becomes involved.
He has to beat some dude(s) a$$ initially in order for the rest of the bad guys to come after him.
He ends up in a hotel with the female he's trying to assist and has carnal knowledge of her.
He does his investigation and finds out a little more.
He'll have to beat another few a$$es just for good measure and to reduce the number of bad guys after him.
He makes a stop at the Goodwill and ditches his old clothes for slightly used clothes since these stink after the first two confrontations and a$$ beatings.
He finally figures out the scoop and systematically kills the remaining bad guy(s)
He leaves the female who by the way, gives him no trouble at all and fully understands, and moves on to the next little town where we start all over again.

GOOD STUFF! :laugh :laugh :laugh

Really? was because you of all people should know. :Stick


This book title is based on Reacher's rule; If you want me to stop, you are going to have to make me. The towns people suggest that he leave, the novel name is based on his rule of not stopping and you are not bad :neenerbutt enough to make me stop.
This was a dark novel and does not clue people in to what it is about, which for some could be a real issue. His writing style also changed with this novel. Some parts reminded me of old Reacher and others of Reacher that Child was just trying to get out a book to make a deadline. I did not hate nor love this book, but would not recommend it to those that already are not a Reacher fan.
Oh, and to your last point, did it not seem as if he was too involved with her? Not like the normal Jack.

It didn't seem to me like he was into the female any more or less than previous ones. I'm sure I'm not as avid a fan as you are, but I still have a shelf in the man cave with the majority of his hardback books. I just don't recall in which book he proclaims his "rule", but the explanation does help solve the title mystery for me. I've always liked Child's writing. Thankfully for all readers, there are many ways to "skin a cat" or "tell a story"

As a teenager, my favorite police TV series was Colombo. Think about how all those stories were told. At the beginning of every episode, you knew who the bad guy/girl was. You knew who committed the crime. There was no mystery about whether or not is was the butler with a candlestick in the library. The story was the cunning methods of Colombo, his presumed stupidity and investigative talent to expose the criminal in the end and arrest them.

I like many methods of telling a story, including the Colombo version. I try to mix it up a little.

Code 1 - You knew the bad guy and his business.
Code 2 - You knew the bad guy and suspected what his business was.
Code 3 - You will know some of the players, but not the main one and will not know what they are up to until the end.

I say "you" in general terms of who will actually read them, not "you" personally.

That's gonna kill me, ya know. I have to know, and will spend the entire book picking out clues until I'm convinced I know! Then if I'm wrong, I'll kick myself for not seeing it!

Don't feel bad. I didn't even know until 10K words into it :laugh

 

[mei lan]

Will it have another awesome death scene? leasepleaseplease:

 

[Grey Colson]

Will it have another awesome death scene? leasepleaseplease:

I'm sure it will be it will be a challenge to come up with something more...unexpected than the last one. You might need to help me come up with something, mei lan. Especially since you'll be a super-not-so-secret editor again 8)