Britain's Version Of 'Medicare For All' Is Struggling With Long Waits For Care

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Well sign me up.... Can't wait for Bernie 2020 to pitch Govt. run healthcare for all.....


Nearly a quarter of a million British patients have been waiting more than six months to receive planned medical treatment from the National Health Service, according to a recent report from the Royal College of Surgeons. More than 36,000 have been in treatment queues for nine months or more.
Long waits for care are endemic to government-run, single-payer systems like the NHS. Yet some U.S. lawmakers want to import that model from across the pond. That would be a massive blunder.
Consider how long it takes to get care at the emergency room in Britain. Government data show that hospitals in England only saw 84.2% of patients within four hours in February. That's well below the country's goal of treating 95% of patients within four hours -- a target the NHS hasn't hit since 2015.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallyp...-medicare-for-all-is-collapsing/#2fd6e07f36b8

The NHS also routinely denies patients access to treatment. More than half of NHS Clinical Commissioning Groups, which plan and commission health services within their local regions, are rationing cataract surgery. They call it a procedure of “limited clinical value.”
It’s hard to see how a surgery that can prevent blindness is of limited clinical value. Delaying surgery can cause patients’ vision to worsen — and thus put them at risk of falls or being unable to conduct basic daily activities.



And it’s not just vision services. “Many Clinical Commissioning Groups are also rationing hip and knee replacements, glucose monitors for diabetes patients, and hernia surgery by placing the same ‘limited clinical value’ label on them,” Pipes wrote.
Consider the policy implications of allowing someone to go blind; the government will then spend far more on follow-on care and support for someone who can no longer see (or work) than it would have on the surgery. But that assumes, again, that the NHS even had the surgical facility and staff available to do the surgery.
“It’s shocking that access to this life-changing surgery is being unnecessarily restricted,” said Helen Lee, a health policy manager at the Royal National Institute of Blind People.
Speaking of personnel shortages, Pipes — who always documents her research well — notes:
Patients face long wait times and rationing of care in part because the NHS can’t attract nearly enough medical professionals to meet demand. At the end of 2018, more than 39,000 nursing spots were unfilled. That’s a vacancy rate of more than 10%. Among medical staff, nearly 9,000 posts were unoccupied.

Wait times for cancer treatment — where timeliness can be a matter of life and death — are also far too lengthy. According to January NHS England data, almost 25% of cancer patients didn’t start treatment on time despite an urgent referral by their primary care doctor. That’s the worst performance since records began in 2009.
And keep in mind that “on time” for the NHS is already 62 days after referral.

Yeah, okay, but what about outcomes? We’re told all the time by the Left that government healthcare improves outcomes.

But that’s not the case, for cancer at least, as Pipes notes:
Unsurprisingly, British cancer patients fare worse than those in the United States. Only 81% of breast cancer patients in the United Kingdom live at least five years after diagnosis, compared to 89% in the United States. Just 83% of patients in the United Kingdom live five years after a prostate cancer diagnosis, versus 97% here in America.
 
"Take two aspirins and put a band-aid on it" is the new motto. They'll toughen up quick.
 
"Take two aspirins and put a band-aid on it" is the new motto. They'll toughen up quick.
Yep.... 4.16 million Patients, let that sink in ... 4,160,000 people are waiting to start treatment... that's a bunch of aspirin...

Four Million, One Hundred Sixty Million people are waiting upward of 4 months to start being treated for what they have been diagnosed ... and how long did they wait to see a doctor in the first place?

NHS England’s ‘Referral to Treatment’ (RTT) statistics for January 2019, show that 4.16 million patients were waiting to start treatment overall. The data shows the number of patients waiting more than 18 weeks to start planned treatment in January 2019 was 552,219.
https://www.rcseng.ac.uk/news-and-events/media-centre/press-releases/nhs-stats-march-2019/
 
Hmmm...

Obviously socialized medicine does not work...

Wonder if this is a 'side goal' of not enough capacity to handle demand...
*Let the older generation die off from lack of medical care...
Then the younger generation, with mush for brains when it comes to questioning polecats...
Would make it easier for the globalists to move society to that point of no return...
And we will either 'progress' (regress?) into:
*Another dark ages...
OR
*Christ will come again.

Regardless... letting the left take away freedom in healthcare is NOT an option!
 
*Let the older generation die off from lack of medical care...
Then the younger generation, with mush for brains when it comes to questioning polecats...
Would make it easier for the globalists to move society to that point of no return...
Fast forward 30 years, the same ones of the current younger generation will then be the seniors. That's when there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 
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YUP...

Youth seem to be sucked in by polecats...
Until they grow up between the ears!

Any wonder why polecats want youth to stay young between the ears as long as they can keep them there???
 
Fast forward 30 years, the same ones of the current younger generation will then be the seniors. That's when there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Bernie et al will wax poetic about single payer or free healthcare, and how other countries do it why can't the USA... just remember there is a consequence to "free"

Can you imagine you have CANCER, and you already have been delayed 62 days just to get referral, then being in the 25% that will be delayed even longer than two months to begin treatment!!!!!!!

Patients face long wait times and rationing of care in part because the NHS can’t attract nearly enough medical professionals to meet demand. At the end of 2018, more than 39,000 nursing spots were unfilled. That’s a vacancy rate of more than 10%. Among medical staff, nearly 9,000 posts were unoccupied.

Who would want to work in a system that is that dysfunctional? Not the best and brightest our society has to offer.
 
Fast forward 30 years, the same ones of the current younger generation will then be the seniors. That's when there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Sadly... those kids probably think it will be different next time...
Like the polecats told them.
Or they are not thinking... :(

I wonder how much more pain it will take for folks to wake up???

IMO we are gonna find out in the 2020 election!
 
This news report sounds very similar to our veterans who have to wait long periods of time to get an appointment to see doctors at VA clinics or treatment and surgical procedures at VA hospitals. One only has to look at the problems with VA health care to see what Medicaid for all is going to be like in this country. If our government cannot adequately run VA to care for veterans, how in the hell can people expect better results from the government if its managing the entire population's health care?
 
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